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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Should PAGE_CACHE_SIZE be discarded?
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:23:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114152345.GB20973@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17161.1195048613@redhat.com>

On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:56:53PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> 
> Are we ever going to have PAGE_CACHE_SIZE != PAGE_SIZE?  If not, why not
> discard PAGE_CACHE_SIZE as it's then redundant.
> 

Christoph Lameter has patches exactly to make PAGE_CACHE_SIZE larger than
PAGE_SIZE, and they seem to work without much effort. I happen to hate the
patches ;) but that doesn't change the fact that PAGE_CACHE_SIZE is
relatively useful and it is not at all an ill-defined concept.


> PAGE_CACHE_SIZE is also an ill-defined concept.  Just grep in Documentation/
> and it only comes up in a couple of places, neither particularly informative.
> 
> If there's a possibility that it will be used, then someone who knows how it's
> supposed to work needs to sit down and document what it is, what it represents,
> where it applies, how it interacts with PG_compound and how the page flags
> distribute over a page cache slot.

No, this was an *example*. It has nothing to do with PG_compound upsream.
That was just an example. Basically, anything that goes in the page cache
is in units of PAGE_CACHE_SIZE, and nothing else. For filesystems it
should be pretty easy...

 
> One further thing to consider: actually making PAGE_CACHE_SIZE > PAGE_SIZE
> work will be an interesting problem, as I'm certain most filesystems will
> break horribly without a lot of work (ramfs might be only exception).

I think most filesystems actually don't have much problem with it. mm
code has bigger problems, eg. due to ptes <-> pagecache no longer being
equal size.... but why would filesystems care?


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-14 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-14 13:56 Should PAGE_CACHE_SIZE be discarded? David Howells
2007-11-14 15:23 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-11-14 15:59 ` David Howells
2007-11-14 21:35   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-15 12:05   ` David Howells
2007-11-15 14:15     ` Benny Halevy
2007-11-15 14:46     ` David Howells
2007-11-15 21:30       ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-15 17:09 ` Jörn Engel

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