From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Beagle and logging inotify events
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:38:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071114193805.GN14254@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071114193245.GE3966@webber.adilger.int>
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:32:45PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2007 11:32 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > I disagree: we don't need a "bullet-proof" log. We can get a significant
> > performance improvement even with a permanent dnotify log implemented in
> > user-space. We already have well-defined fallback behavior if such a log
> > is missing or incomplete.
> >
> > The problem with a permanent inotify log is that it can become unmanageably
> > enormous, and a performance problem to boot. Recording at that level of
> > detail makes it more likely that the logger won't be able to keep up with
> > file system activity.
> >
> > A lightweight solution gets us most of the way there, is simple to
> > implement, and doesn't introduce many new issues. As long as it can tell
> > us precisely where the holes are, it shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Jan Kara is working on a patch for ext4 which would store a recursive
> timestamp for each directory that gives the latest time that a file in
> that directory was modified. ZFS has a similar mechanism by virtue of
> doing full-tree updates during COW of all the metadata blocks and storing
> the most recent transaction number in each block. I suspect btrfs could
> do the same thing easily.
>
> That would allow recursive-descent filesystem traversal to be much more
> efficient because whole chunks of the filesystem tree can be ignored during
> scans.
The problem is that people may not be happy with the random behavior of
hardlinks, right?
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-14 19:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-14 0:04 Beagle and logging inotify events Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 13:29 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-14 13:44 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 14:41 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-14 15:01 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 16:32 ` Chuck Lever
2007-11-14 17:46 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 19:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-11-14 19:38 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-11-15 19:59 ` Jan Kara
2007-11-15 20:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-15 20:14 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 15:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-14 19:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 19:22 ` Jon Smirl
2007-11-14 19:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
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