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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Vitaliy Gusev <vgusev@openvz.org>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Pid namespaces vs locks interaction
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:42:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071212184225.GA23504@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712122042.41990.vgusev@openvz.org>

Quoting Vitaliy Gusev (vgusev@openvz.org):
> On 12 December 2007 20:31:15 Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Vitaliy Gusev (vgusev@openvz.org):
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > On 6 December 2007 18:51:30 Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > > > fl_pid is used by nfs, fuse and gfs2. For instance nfs  keeps in
> > > > > fl_pid some unique id to identify locking process between hosts - it
> > > > > is not a process pid.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, but so the struct user_flock->fl_pid is being set to the task's
> > > > virtual pid, while the struct kernel_flock->fl_pid is being set to
> > > > task->tgid for nfsd use.
> > > >
> > > > Why can't nfs just generate a uniqueid from the struct pid when it
> > > > needs it?
> > >
> > > I think it is hard. lockd uses struct nlm_host to get process unique id
> > > (see __nlm_alloc_pid() function).
> >
> > Looks pretty simple though...  That whole set of code could even stay
> > the same except for in __nlm_alloc_pid():
> >
> > 	option 1: compare struct pid* instead of uint32_t pid
> > 	option 2: use the "global pid" out of the stored struct pid,
> > 		something like pid->numbers[0].nr.
> 
> We can't use process pid. Process pid is circulated!  NFS (lockd)  needs 
> unique process id between hosts which can't repeat oneself.

Ok sorry - by letting this thread sit a few days I lost track of where
we were.

I see now, so you're saying fl_pid for nfs is not in fact a task pid.
It's a magically derived unique id.  (And you say it is unique across
all the nfs clients?)

So does the p in fl_pid stand for something, or could we rename it to
fl_id or fl_uniqueid?

Maybe that's too much bother, but so long as we're bothering with a pid
cleanup at all it seems worth it to me.  On the other hand maybe
J. Bruce Fields was right and we should accept the fact that the
flock->fl_pid shouldn't be taken too seriously, and leave it be.

-serge

> > > > Fuse just seems to copy the pid to report it to userspace, so it would
> > > > just copy pid_vnr(kernel_flock->pid) into user_flock->fl_pid.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway I haven't looked at all the uses of struct fl_pid, but you
> > > > can always get the pidnr back from the struct pid if needed so there
> > > > should be no problem.
> > > >
> > > > The split definately seems worthwhile to me, so that
> > > > user_flock->fl_pidnr can always be said to be the pid in the acting
> > > > process' namespace, and flock->fl_pid can always be a struct pid,
> > > > rather than having fl_pid sometimes be current->tgid, or sometimes
> > > > pid_vnr(flock->fl_nspid)...
> > > >
> > > > -serge
> > > > -
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Thank,
> > > Vitaliy Gusev
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thank,
> Vitaliy Gusev

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-12 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200712061411.32159.vgusev@openvz.org>
2007-12-06 12:57 ` [RFC][PATCH] Pid namespaces vs locks interaction Vitaliy Gusev
2007-12-06 14:53   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-06 15:19     ` Vitaliy Gusev
2007-12-06 15:51       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-08 22:21         ` Brad Boyer
     [not found]         ` <20071206155130.GA12463-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-12 16:07           ` Vitaliy Gusev
2007-12-12 17:31             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]               ` <20071212173115.GA21956-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-12 17:42                 ` Vitaliy Gusev
2007-12-12 18:42                   ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20071212184225.GA23504-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-13 14:13                       ` Vitaliy Gusev
2007-12-13 16:40                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-06 22:15   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-12-07 14:51     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-21 12:22 ` [PATCH] " Vitaliy Gusev
2007-12-21 14:42   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-12-22  0:50   ` Andrew Morton

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