From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
serue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem.
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:26:31 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801090626.m096QWKl016866@www262.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10946.1199855042@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Hello.
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> Good summary - probably should add that to the patch, drop it into
> Documentation/syaoran-config.txt or similar...
I see.
> Modification while reading *is* an issue, but can probably be worked around
> with some clever locking. The race condition I was thinking of was if you
> had the mount and the policy load be 2 separate events, you could see:
>
> (a) issue mount request
> (b) do something malicious in /dev while..
> (c) load the policy that would have prevented (b).
>
> This is partly why SELinux has init load the policy *very* early on, before
> any other userspace have had a chance to run and do things that would have
> been prevented by policy.
So, you suggested to load policy before mount() request so that
this filesystem can prevent attackers from doing something malicious
by minimizing (i.e. implement as non-blocking operation) the latency
between the userland process's call of mount() and the nodes become visible
to userland process.
I didn't take such cases into account.
My assumed usage of this filesystem is that run a script with
#!/bin/sh
mount -t syaoran -o accept=/etc/ccs/syaoran.conf none /dev
exec /sbin/init "$@"
by passing "init=/path/to/this/script" to the kernel command line
so that /sbin/init can create /dev/initlog on this filesystem.
If you mount this filesystem after /sbin/init starts,
it will shadow /dev/initctl opened by /sbin/init .
> Which basically ends up meaning that anybody who can trick the mount into
> happening can reset the permitted list and create (for example) a mode 666
> entry for a hard drive, and go scribbling around at will. Note that you
> don't seem to do any sanity checking on the path (for instance, that each
> component is owned by root, and not world-writable) - so anybody who finds
> a way to get the mount to happen can supply their own list in /home/joeuser/blat
> or /tmp/surprise-mount-list or wherever.
I assume that being able to reach this location means the caller of mount() is root.
But, the patches to allow mount() by non-root is in progress? http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/8/131
May be I should add some sanity checking on the path.
Thank you.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-09 6:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-23 14:44 [PATCH][RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem Tetsuo Handa
2007-12-31 20:02 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-01-01 2:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-06 6:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-06 6:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-01-06 7:36 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-06 7:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-01-06 15:20 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-07 20:37 ` Indan Zupancic
2008-01-08 13:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-08 15:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2008-01-09 4:39 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-09 13:59 ` Indan Zupancic
2008-01-09 23:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-01-10 1:06 ` Indan Zupancic
2008-01-10 4:57 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-10 23:05 ` Indan Zupancic
2008-01-11 8:46 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-11 12:22 ` Indan Zupancic
2008-01-11 14:05 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-11 14:46 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-07 17:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-08 13:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2008-01-09 5:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 6:26 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
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