From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chris.mason@oracle.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] fast file mapping for loop
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:43:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080109094320.GA6258@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080109093107.GA5023@infradead.org>
On Wed, Jan 09 2008, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 09:52:32AM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > - The file block mappings must not change while loop is using the file.
> > This means that we have to ensure exclusive access to the file and
> > this is the bit that is currently missing in the implementation. It
> > would be nice if we could just do this via open(), ideas welcome...
>
> And the way this is done is simply broken. It means you have to get
> rid of things like delayed or unwritten hands beforehand, it'll be
> a complete pain for COW or non-block backed filesystems.
COW is not that hard to handle, you just need to be notified of moving
blocks. If you view the patch as just a tighter integration between loop
and fs, I don't think it's necessarily that broken.
I did consider these cases, and it can be done with the existing
approach.
> The right way to do this is to allow direct I/O from kernel sources
> where the filesystem is in-charge of submitting the actual I/O after
> the pages are handed to it. I think Peter Zijlstra has been looking
> into something like that for swap over nfs.
That does sound like a nice approach, but a lot more work. It'll behave
differently too, the advantage of what I proposed is that it behaves
like a real device.
I'm not asking you to love it (in fact I knew some people would complain
about this approach and I understand why), just tossing it out there to
get things rolling. If we end up doing it differently I don't really
care, I'm not married to any solution but merely wish to solve a
problem. If that ends up being solved differently, the outcome is the
same to me.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-09 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-09 8:52 [PATCH][RFC] fast file mapping for loop Jens Axboe
2008-01-09 9:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-09 9:43 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-01-09 11:00 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-09 15:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-10 8:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-09 23:16 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-01-10 8:31 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 8:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 7:39 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-01-11 7:58 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 12:47 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-10 12:57 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 23:01 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-11 14:21 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-10 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-10 8:34 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-10 8:44 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 8:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-10 9:01 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 12:53 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-10 13:03 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 13:46 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-10 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-10 9:49 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 9:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-10 10:02 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-10 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-11 1:25 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-01-11 18:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-01-11 18:23 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-14 17:10 ` Chris Mason
2008-01-14 17:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-15 9:25 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-15 9:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-15 10:07 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-15 14:04 ` Chris Mason
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2008-01-09 23:53 ` Alasdair G Kergon
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