From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal for "proper" durable fsync() and fdatasync()
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:29:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080226172913.GB22471@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080226170214.GA23829@lazybastard.org>
Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Tue, 26 February 2008 15:28:10 +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> >
> > > One interesting aspect of this comes with COW filesystems like btrfs or
> > > logfs. Writing out data pages is not sufficient, because those will get
> > > lost unless their referencing metadata is written as well. So either we
> > > have to call fsync for those filesystems or add another callback and let
> > > filesystems override the default implementation.
> >
> > Doesn't the ->fsync callback get called in the sys_fdatasync() case,
> > with appropriate arguments?
>
> My paragraph above was aimed at the sync_file_range() case. fsync and
> fdatasync do the right thing within the limitations you brought up in
> this thread. sync_file_range() without further changes will only write
> data pages, not the metadata required to actually access those data
> pages. This works just fine for non-COW filesystems, which covers all
> currently merged ones.
>
> With COW filesystems it is currently impossible to do sync_file_range()
> properly. The problem is orthogonal to your's, I just brought it up
> since you were already mentioning sync_file_range().
You're right. Though, doesn't normal page writeback enqueue the COW
metadata changes? If not, how do they get written in a timely
fashion?
-- Jamie
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-26 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-26 7:26 Proposal for "proper" durable fsync() and fdatasync() Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-26 7:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 9:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-02-26 14:09 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 16:27 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-26 15:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 17:02 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 17:29 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-02-26 17:38 ` Jörn Engel
2008-02-26 16:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-26 17:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 17:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-27 14:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 7:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-26 7:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 9:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-26 12:13 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-02-26 15:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-24 21:10 ` Sachin Gaikwad
2008-11-25 10:17 ` Jamie Lokier
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