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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
		Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>, Erez Zadok <ezk@cs.sunysb.edu>,
		linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
		Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>,
		Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Union mount readdir support in glibc
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:39:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080314053925.GA10722@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D9F6CC.6010009@redhat.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 08:53:48PM -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote:

> To handle union FS at userlevel somewhere in that code sequence (perhaps
> in the fstat call) we'd have to recognize such mounts.

*Snort*

How about "the first entry returned by getdents(3) after open() is a whiteout
for e.g. '.'"?  No fstat needed, zero impact for normal directories,
zero impact for any binaries on old kernels (where you wouldn't have
unions) and zero impact for old binaries on new kernels unless they
do getdents() on directory that happens to be a union.

And no lockstep...

>  Before any
> agreement on userlevel sorting can be made you'll have to answer a
> question Roland already asked:
> 
> - - How does this work with NFS?

It won't, kernel-side or done in userland.

> re seeking: you have to support seeking.  There is no way around it.

Actually, do we really need it other than to 0 and to current position
(i.e. full rewind and a no-op)?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-14  5:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-11  5:55 [RFC] Union mount readdir support in glibc Bharata B Rao
2008-03-11  8:09 ` Roland McGrath
2008-03-11 12:49   ` Bharata B Rao
2008-03-12  4:28   ` Bharata B Rao
2008-03-14  3:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-14  5:39   ` Al Viro [this message]
2008-03-14  7:13     ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-03-14  8:41       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-03-14 17:53         ` Peter Staubach
2008-03-14 20:51           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-03-14 20:58           ` Trond Myklebust
2008-03-14 15:07   ` Jan Blunck

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