From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Peter Teoh <htmldeveloper@gmail.com>
Cc: kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@nl.linux.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ext3-users@redhat.com
Subject: Re: "Write once only but read many" filesystem
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:59:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080322165906.GC19347@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <804dabb00803220855q1aa41fc7mc30c7ce7951fe98@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, 22 March 2008 23:55:53 +0800, Peter Teoh wrote:
>
> > Or do you want individual files/directories to be immutable - chattr?
>
> chattr is not good enough, as root can still modify it. So if
> current feature is not there, then some small development may be
> needed.
>
> > And in either case, what problem do you want to solve with a read-only filesystem?
>
> Simple: i want to record down everything that a user does, or a
> database does, or any applications running - just record down its
> state permanently securely into the filesystem, knowing that for sure,
> there is not way to modify the data, short of recreating the
> filesystem again. Sound logical? Or is there any loophole in this
> concept?
The loophole is called root. In a normal setup, root can do anything,
including writing directly to the device your filesystem resides in,
writing to kernel memory, etc.
It may be rather inconvenient to change a filesystem by writing to the
block device, but far from impossible. If you want to make such changes
impossible, you are facing an uphill battle that I personally don't care
about. And if inconvenience is good enough, wouldn't chattr be
sufficiently inconvenient?
Jörn
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-22 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-14 16:17 filesystem differentiation Peter Teoh
2008-03-14 23:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-03-22 4:39 ` "Write once only but read many" filesystem Peter Teoh
[not found] ` <20080322102331.GA19347@logfs.org>
[not found] ` <804dabb00803220752h670757d8o9c1b7fa3696467bc@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20080322150626.GB19347@logfs.org>
2008-03-22 15:55 ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-22 16:59 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2008-03-24 4:49 ` Scott Lovenberg
2008-03-24 6:35 ` Peter Teoh
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2008-03-24 6:45 Peter Teoh
2008-03-24 16:56 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-03-25 0:47 ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-25 15:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-25 18:42 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-03-25 18:32 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-03-26 2:27 ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-26 16:49 ` Bryan Henderson
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