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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Meelis Roos <mroos@linux.ee>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: file offset corruption on 32-bit machines?
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:28:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080410152846.GG6725@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080410151406.GA17051@shareable.org>

> Martin Mares wrote:
> > > [*] file_pos_{read,write} (fs/read_write.c) are not called under
> > > lock (in sys_read, sys_write, ...), so even if f_pos is written
> > > atomically, you will be able to get races when accessing shared
> > > descriptor from different threads.
> > 
> > There are however cases when such behavior is perfectly valid: For example
> > you can have a file of records of a fixed size, whose order does not matter.
> > Then multiple processes can produce the records in parallel, sharing
> > a single fd.
> 
> A rather more common thing:
> 
> Does this problem apply when appending lines or records to a log file,
> with or without O_APPEND?
  O_APPEND works correctly in all cases (it ignores f_pos in the
descriptor). Without O_APPEND you can hit the race (but I'd like to see
a sensible use case of this ;).

> Also, can this problem affect programs doing concurrent reads/writes
> using pread/pwrite (or the AIO equivalents)?
  As Matthew said, pread/pwrite are safe, parallel read can hit the race,
write was described above...

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SuSE CR Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.SOC.4.64.0804081101430.28938@math.ut.ee>
2008-04-10 13:55 ` file offset corruption on 32-bit machines? Michal Hocko
2008-04-10 14:01   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-04-10 14:27     ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 14:31       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-04-10 14:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 15:22           ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:30             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 15:19         ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:37           ` Michal Hocko
2008-04-10 15:56             ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 16:03         ` Diego Calleja
2008-04-10 16:15           ` Jan Kara
2008-04-11 19:26       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 16:25         ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 14:31     ` Michal Hocko
2008-04-10 14:35       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-04-10 14:11   ` Martin Mares
2008-04-10 15:12     ` Jan Kara
2008-04-10 15:14     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-10 15:21       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-10 15:28       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2008-04-10 15:33   ` Andi Kleen
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     [not found] ` <ah5tY-3lR-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <ah5DA-3X9-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <ah5X5-4tl-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <ah66A-4Nk-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <ah7vN-7Wz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-11 12:24           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-11 13:55             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-11 16:59               ` Bryan Henderson
2008-04-11 17:15                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-11 21:29                   ` Bryan Henderson
2008-04-12  8:48                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 16:20               ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 16:22                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-14 16:53                   ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 16:54                     ` Alan Cox
2008-04-14 18:34                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-14 17:06                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-14 19:03                       ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 19:29                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-14 19:42                           ` Jan Kara
2008-04-14 19:45                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15  8:57                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 15:32                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 17:34                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 18:24                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 19:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 19:49                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 20:06                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-15 20:28                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-16  8:15                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-16  8:20                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-16 10:54                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-04-16 13:57                                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 20:29                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-15 22:11                                           ` Bryan Henderson
2008-04-16  9:40                                             ` Jamie Lokier

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