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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: hch@lst.de, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] always set a/c/mtime through ->setattr
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:33:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080520083351.GA14826@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1JyMSu-0001au-96@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 09:40:56AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > Currently touch_atime and file_update_time directly update a/c/mtime
> > in the inode and just mark the inode dirty afterwards.  This is pretty
> > bad for some more complex filesystems that have various different types
> > of dirtying an inode and/or need to store the data in another place
> > for example for a buffer to be logged.
> > 
> > This patch changes touch_atime and file_update_time to not update the
> > inode directly but rather call through ->setattr into the filessystem.
> 
> Do we know what effect this will have on read/write performance?  I
> can imagine that some ->setattr() implementations are orders of
> magnitude slower than just dirtying the inode.

All major disk or in-memory filesystems except for XFS just pass down
ATTR_*TIME requests to inode_setattr which is not more than just
dirtying the inode.  NFS and CIFS set S_NOCMTIME so they're not affected
by this at all.

> This optimization is fishy.  Remember, inode->i_*time are just cached
> values, and the actual times on the (remote) filesystem itself can
> differ.  Which means that we will now optimize out a "touch" because
> we happened to have the current time cached in the inode.  Not that
> this would be a likely event, but still...
> 
> So at least this check should be made dependent on ATTR_UPDTIMES, and
> explicit time updates left alone.

Good catch.  I'll fix by either/or moving the check into ->setattr and
making it conditional on ATTR_UPDTIMES.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-20  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-20  6:08 [PATCH] always set a/c/mtime through ->setattr Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-20  6:19 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-05-20  6:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-20  7:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-20  8:33   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-05-22 18:10     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-05-31 13:20       ` Al Viro
2008-05-31 13:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-31 13:35           ` Al Viro
2008-05-21  6:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-21 17:19   ` Chuck Lever

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