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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	ext4 development <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:43:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080520154313.GI16676@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080520023454.GM15035@mit.edu>

Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:09:56PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> > To ensure that bits are truly on-disk after an fsync,
> > we should call blkdev_issue_flush if barriers are supported.
> 
> This patch isn't necessary, and in fact will cause a double flush.
> When you call fsync(), it calls ext4_force_commit(), and we do a the
> equivalent of a blkdev_issue_flush() today (which is what happenes
> when you do a submit_bh(WRITE_BARRIER, bh), which is what setting
> set_ordered_mode(bh) ends up causing.

ISTR fsync() on ext3 did not always force a commit, if in-place data
writes did not change any metadata.  Has this been fixed in ext4 but
not ext3 then?

Does WRITE_BARRIER always cause a flush?  It does not have to
according to Documentation/block/barrier.txt.  There are caveats about
tagged queuing "not yet implemented" in the text, but can we rely on
that?  The documentation is older than the current implementation;
those caveats might no longer apply.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-20 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-16 19:02 [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 19:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] ext3: enable barriers by default Eric Sandeen
2008-05-19  8:58   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-16 19:07 ` [PATCH 2/4] ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 22:15   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 19:08 ` [PATCH 3/4] ext4: enable barriers by default Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 19:09 ` [PATCH 4/4] ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Eric Sandeen
2008-05-20  2:34   ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 15:43     ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-05-20 15:52       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-20 19:54       ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-20 22:02         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21  7:30           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]       ` <4832F3C6.1050601@redhat.com>
2008-05-20 20:14         ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-16 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Andrew Morton
2008-05-16 20:53   ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 20:58     ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-16 21:45       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 22:03         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 22:09           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 22:03     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-16 22:21       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-16 22:53         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-17  0:20           ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-17  0:35             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-17 13:43               ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-17 17:59                 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-17 20:44                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 14:45                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-18  0:48               ` Chris Mason
2008-05-18  1:36                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-18 14:49                   ` Ric Wheeler
     [not found]                   ` <4830420D.4080608@gmail.com>
2008-05-20 14:42                     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 23:48                     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 23:44                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-18 20:03         ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19  0:43           ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-19  2:29             ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]             ` <4830E60A.2010809@redhat.com>
2008-05-19  4:11               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-19 17:16                 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-19 18:39                   ` Chris Mason
2008-05-19 22:39                     ` Jan Kara
2008-05-20  0:29                       ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20  3:29                         ` Timothy Shimmin
2008-05-20 12:04                           ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20  8:25                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-20 12:17                       ` Chris Mason
2008-05-21 11:22                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-21 12:32                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 18:03                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 18:15                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-21 19:43                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 18:29                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-21 18:49                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 19:42                             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 19:36                           ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                           ` <20080521193633.GA26780@shareable.org>
2008-05-21 19:40                             ` Chris Mason
2008-05-21 19:54                         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 14:58                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 22:30                   ` Daniel Phillips
2008-05-20 23:35               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-19  0:28       ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20 15:13         ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]         ` <20080520151306.GF16676@shareable.org>
2008-05-21 20:25           ` Greg Smith
2008-05-16 22:30   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-18 19:54   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19 13:26     ` Chris Mason
2008-05-19 14:46       ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-20  2:51         ` [PATCH, RFC] ext4: Fix use of write barrier in commit logic Theodore Tso
     [not found]         ` <20080520025112.GN15035@mit.edu>
2008-05-20 15:23           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-23 18:33         ` [PATCH 0/4] (RESEND) ext3[34] barrier changes Ric Wheeler
2008-05-20 15:36       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 16:02         ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20 16:27           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 17:08             ` Chris Mason
2008-05-20 22:26               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-19  9:04   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-29 13:36   ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found] <1210948642-12171-1-git-send-email-sandeen@redhat.com>
2008-05-16 14:37 ` [PATCH 4/4] ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Eric Sandeen

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