From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: jim owens <jowens@hp.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:53:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080529155341.GA21610@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483ECCB5.5060909@hp.com>
jim owens wrote:
> This is why it was done. In practice this was only used by kernel
> callers because most application developers simply looped with a
> fixed buffer and adjusted fm_start. Dumber applications kept
> doubling their malloc to get all extents at once... or core dump :)
I'm seeing that a database, VM, or filesystem-in-a-file app (anything
like that using huge files) may want to optimise it's I/O scheduling
and allocation pattern according to the estimated layout of it's open
files... and some of those would like to be robust and not core dump
when presented with really large files! :) And not core dumping does
not mean "abandon the strategy when too large" either - it means have
a strategy which scales :-)
I'm also seeing block devices potentially offering a similar or even
same interface. Now that block devices (LVM) have extents and
underlying allocation strategies etc. much the same as modern
filesystems. Perhaps LVM itself could support FIEMAP. From a database
engine's point of view, there isn't really much difference any more
except differing APIs and limitations.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-29 15:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-25 0:01 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl Mark Fasheh
2008-05-25 19:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-25 20:59 ` Brad Boyer
2008-05-26 10:59 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-26 18:04 ` Brad Boyer
2008-05-27 16:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-27 21:10 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-05-27 13:48 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-27 16:21 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-05-27 16:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-27 20:34 ` Joel Becker
2008-05-27 16:52 ` jim owens
2008-05-27 17:19 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-28 16:09 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-28 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-29 22:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-30 13:37 ` Chris Mason
2008-05-29 13:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-29 20:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-27 18:56 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-05-27 20:31 ` Joel Becker
2008-05-27 20:49 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-05-28 5:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-28 16:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-28 17:04 ` Joel Becker
2008-05-29 0:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-05-29 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-29 15:33 ` jim owens
2008-05-29 15:53 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-05-29 18:56 ` Joel Becker
2008-05-29 21:41 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-29 21:47 ` Joel Becker
2008-05-29 23:20 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-29 1:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-05-29 5:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
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