From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
jesper@krogh.cc, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.26-rc4
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:30:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080603173029.GD28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1212513189.3025.101.camel@raven.themaw.net>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 01:13:08AM +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> "What happens is that during an expire the situation can arise
> that a directory is removed and another lookup is done before
> the expire issues a completion status to the kernel module.
> In this case, since the the lookup gets a new dentry, it doesn't
> know that there is an expire in progress and when it posts its
> mount request, matches the existing expire request and waits
> for its completion. ENOENT is then returned to user space
> from lookup (as the dentry passed in is now unhashed) without
> having performed the mount request.
>
> The solution used here is to keep track of dentrys in this
> unhashed state and reuse them, if possible, in order to
> preserve the flags. Additionally, this infrastructure will
> provide the framework for the reintroduction of caching
> of mount fails removed earlier in development."
>
> I wasn't able to do an acceptable re-implementation of the negative
> caching we had in 2.4 with this framework, so just ignore the last
> sentence in the above description.
> Unfortunately no, but I thought that once the dentry became unhashed
> (aka ->rmdir() or ->unlink()) it was invisible to the dcache. But, of
> course there may be descriptors open on the dentry, which I think is the
> problem that's being pointed out.
... or we could have had a pending mount(2) sitting there with a reference
to mountpoint-to-be...
> Yes, that would be ideal but the reason we arrived here is that, because
> we must release the directory mutex before calling back to the daemon
> (the heart of the problem, actually having to drop the mutex) to perform
> the mount, we can get a deadlock. The cause of the problem was that for
> "create" like operations the mutex is held for ->lookup() and
> ->revalidate() but for a "path walks" the mutex is only held for
> ->lookup(), so if the mutex is held when we're in ->revalidate(), we
> could never be sure that we where the code path that acquired it.
>
> Sorry, this last bit is unclear.
> I'll need to work a bit harder on the explanation if you're interested
> in checking further.
I am.
Oh, well... Looks like RTFS time for me for now... Additional parts of
braindump would be appreciated - the last time I've seriously looked at
autofs4 internal had been ~2005 or so ;-/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-03 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-06-03 9:49 ` Linux 2.6.26-rc4 Jesper Krogh
2008-06-03 9:57 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 10:04 ` Jesper Krogh
2008-06-03 10:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 10:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 10:48 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 13:31 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 13:32 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 10:40 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 10:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-03 10:52 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 13:27 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 15:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-03 16:07 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-03 16:41 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 16:50 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 17:28 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 17:41 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 17:41 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 17:50 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 17:49 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 16:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-03 17:30 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 17:13 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 17:30 ` Al Viro [this message]
2008-06-03 17:38 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 17:46 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-06-03 19:18 ` Al Viro
2008-06-03 19:53 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-06-03 23:00 ` Al Viro
2008-06-04 2:42 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-04 5:34 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-04 5:41 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-10 4:57 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-10 6:28 ` Jesper Krogh
2008-06-10 6:40 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-10 9:09 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-12 3:03 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-12 7:02 ` Jesper Krogh
2008-06-12 11:21 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-12 11:19 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-04 1:36 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-05 7:31 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-05 21:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-05 21:34 ` Jesper Krogh
2008-06-06 2:39 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-05 22:30 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-06 2:47 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-27 4:18 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-06 6:23 ` Jesper Krogh
2008-06-06 8:21 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-06 8:25 ` Ian Kent
2008-06-03 10:35 ` Al Viro
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