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* Re: Two questions on VFS/mm
       [not found] <20080604163412.GL16572@duck.suse.cz>
@ 2008-06-04 17:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
  2008-06-05  8:12   ` Jan Kara
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Miklos Szeredi @ 2008-06-04 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jack; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-ext4, linux-mm, linux-fsdevel, akpm

(Added some CCs)

>   could some kind soul knowledgable in VFS/mm help me with the following
> two questions? I've spotted them when testing some ext4 for patches...
>   1) In write_cache_pages() we do:
> ...
> 	lock_page(page);
> 	...
> 	if (!wbc->range_cyclic && page->index > end) {
>                    done = 1;
>                    unlock_page(page);
>                    continue;
>         }
> 	...
> 	ret = (*writepage)(page, wbc, data);
> 
>   Now the problem is that if range_cyclic is set, it can happen that the
> page we give to the filesystem is beyond the current end of file (and can
> be already processed by invalidatepage()). Is the filesystem supposed to
> handle this (what would it be good for to give such a page to the fs?) or
> is it just a bug in write_cache_pages()?

There may be a bug somewhere, but write_cache_pages() looks correct.
It locks the page then checks for page->mapping to make sure the page
wasn't truncated.  And truncation (including invalidatepage()) happens
with the page locked, so that can't race with page writeback.

However the do_invalidatepage() in block_write_full_page() looks
suspicious.  It calls invalidatepage(), but doesn't perform all the
other things needed for truncation.  Maybe there's a valid reason for
that, but I really don't have any idea what.

Miklos

> 
>   2) I have the following problem with page_mkwrite() when blocksize <
> pagesize. What we want to do is to fill in a potential hole under a page
> somebody wants to write to. But consider following scenario with a
> filesystem with 1k blocksize:
>   truncate("file", 1024);
>   ptr = mmap("file");
>   *ptr = 'a'
>      -> page_mkwrite() is called.
>         but "file" is only 1k large and we cannot really allocate blocks
>         beyond end of file. So we allocate just one 1k block.
>   truncate("file", 4096);
>   *(ptr + 2048) = 'a'
>      - nothing is called and later during writepage() time we are surprised
>        we have a dirty page which is not backed by a filesystem block.
> 
>   How to solve this? One idea I have here is that when we handle truncate(),
> we mark the original last page (if it is partial) as read-only again so
> that page_mkwrite() is called on the next write to it. Is something like
> this possible? Pointers to code doing something similar are welcome, I don't
> really know these things ;).
> 
> 								Thanks
> 									Honza
> -- 
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> SUSE Labs, CR
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* Re: Two questions on VFS/mm
  2008-06-04 17:10 ` Two questions on VFS/mm Miklos Szeredi
@ 2008-06-05  8:12   ` Jan Kara
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kara @ 2008-06-05  8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Miklos Szeredi; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-ext4, linux-mm, linux-fsdevel, akpm

On Wed 04-06-08 19:10:42, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> (Added some CCs)
> 
> >   could some kind soul knowledgable in VFS/mm help me with the following
> > two questions? I've spotted them when testing some ext4 for patches...
> >   1) In write_cache_pages() we do:
> > ...
> > 	lock_page(page);
> > 	...
> > 	if (!wbc->range_cyclic && page->index > end) {
> >                    done = 1;
> >                    unlock_page(page);
> >                    continue;
> >         }
> > 	...
> > 	ret = (*writepage)(page, wbc, data);
> > 
> >   Now the problem is that if range_cyclic is set, it can happen that the
> > page we give to the filesystem is beyond the current end of file (and can
> > be already processed by invalidatepage()). Is the filesystem supposed to
> > handle this (what would it be good for to give such a page to the fs?) or
> > is it just a bug in write_cache_pages()?
> 
> There may be a bug somewhere, but write_cache_pages() looks correct.
> It locks the page then checks for page->mapping to make sure the page
> wasn't truncated.  And truncation (including invalidatepage()) happens
> with the page locked, so that can't race with page writeback.
  You are right, write_cache_pages() is correct - I've wrongly undrestood
what 'end' means.

> However the do_invalidatepage() in block_write_full_page() looks
> suspicious.  It calls invalidatepage(), but doesn't perform all the
> other things needed for truncation.  Maybe there's a valid reason for
> that, but I really don't have any idea what.
  Hmm, the fact is I've seen in my tests writepage() being called on a page
which had its buffers removed. And because we attach buffers to a page in
page_mkwrite() and in write_begin() I think we should not see such page.
I've added more debug printings to the code to verify that the page has
indeed been truncated but so far I did not reproduce the problem again.

> >   2) I have the following problem with page_mkwrite() when blocksize <
> > pagesize. What we want to do is to fill in a potential hole under a page
> > somebody wants to write to. But consider following scenario with a
> > filesystem with 1k blocksize:
> >   truncate("file", 1024);
> >   ptr = mmap("file");
> >   *ptr = 'a'
> >      -> page_mkwrite() is called.
> >         but "file" is only 1k large and we cannot really allocate blocks
> >         beyond end of file. So we allocate just one 1k block.
> >   truncate("file", 4096);
> >   *(ptr + 2048) = 'a'
> >      - nothing is called and later during writepage() time we are surprised
> >        we have a dirty page which is not backed by a filesystem block.
> > 
> >   How to solve this? One idea I have here is that when we handle truncate(),
> > we mark the original last page (if it is partial) as read-only again so
> > that page_mkwrite() is called on the next write to it. Is something like
> > this possible? Pointers to code doing something similar are welcome, I don't
> > really know these things ;).

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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