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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger@shaw.ca>,
	Kalpak Shah <Kalpak.Shah@sun.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:24:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080626102403.GN6239@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080626093634.GA30025@shareable.org>

On Jun 26, 2008  10:36 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Mark Fasheh wrote:
> > * FIEMAP_FLAG_SYNC
> > If this flag is set, the kernel will sync the file before mapping extents.
> 
> Is there a reason why fsync() before calling FIEMAP is unsuitable?

This was added because the xfsbmap operation always did an fsync before
returning the extents.  I don't think it is strictly required, but it
isn't harmful either.

> > * FIEMAP_FLAG_XATTR
> > If this flag is set, the extents returned will describe the inodes
> > extended attribute lookup tree, instead of it's data tree.
> 
> What is this for?  The meaning of the xattr tree sounds rather
> filesystem specific to me.

This is to return the location of the xattr blocks for the inode.

> > * FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT
> > Direct access to the data in this extent is illegal or will have
> > undefined results.
> ...
> > * FIEMAP_EXTENT_NET
> >   - This will also set FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT
> > The data for this extent is not stored in a locally-accessible device.
> 
> Does this _always_ set FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT?  Some network
> filesystems do support O_DIRECT access - NFS comes to mind.
> 
> (I'm assuming 'direct access' means O_DIRECT).

"NO_DIRECT" has nothing to do with "O_DIRECT".  It just means that,
per the description a few lines earlier, direct access to the file
data is impossible (i.e. for lilo or other tool which thinks it can
open "dev" and seek to "fe_physical" to read the data), or at best
will have undefined results (e.g. you may get encrypted or compressed
data back, or it is on the far side of a network interface).

> > * FIEMAP_EXTENT_DATA_ENCRYPTED
> >   - This will also set FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT
> > The data in this extent has been encrypted by the file system.
> 
> I don't think encryption necessarily rules out O_DIRECT.  It'll depend
> how I/O is implemented by that filesystem.
> 
> > * FIEMAP_EXTENT_DATA_INLINE
> >   This will also set FIEMAP_EXTENT_NOT_ALIGNED
> > Data is located within a meta data block.
> 
> This seems like it would always set FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT :-)
> 
> (Generally, won't FIEMAP_EXTENT_NOT_ALIGNED always set
> FIEMAP_EXTENT_NO_DIRECT?)
> 
> > * FIEMAP_EXTENT_DATA_TAIL
> >   This will also set FIEMAP_EXTENT_NOT_ALIGNED
> > Data is packed into a block with data from other files.
> 
> Maybe this too.

The rest of these comments seem based on the previous misunderstanding.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-26 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-25 22:18 [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2 Mark Fasheh
2008-06-26  3:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26  9:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 10:24   ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2008-06-26 11:37     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-26 12:19     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:16       ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-26 13:27         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:48         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:16           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 16:56             ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-29 19:12               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-29 21:45                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:57                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-30 23:07                     ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-01  2:01                       ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-02  6:38                         ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02  6:33                 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:26                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:17       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 14:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-27  1:41   ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27  9:41     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 10:01       ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27 10:32         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 22:48       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-28  4:21         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-02  6:26           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:28             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-02 21:20               ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-03 14:45                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 14:04 ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-06-26 14:15   ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:27     ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-07-02 23:48       ` jim owens
2008-07-03 11:17         ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-03 12:11           ` jim owens
2008-07-03 22:51             ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04  8:31               ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 12:13               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07  7:40                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 16:53                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07 22:51                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 21:16               ` jim owens
2008-07-08  3:01                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 22:02               ` jim owens
2008-07-09  2:03                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 12:21           ` jim owens
2008-07-03 12:42             ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 20:32             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-05 10:49               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-05 21:44                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-07 23:01               ` jim owens
2008-07-08  1:51                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 13:02                   ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:03                     ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:39                       ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:30                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09  1:50                       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:01   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-03 14:37 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 15:17   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-04  8:49     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 11:28       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 23:00   ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04  9:00   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-07 23:28     ` jim owens
2008-07-09  1:53       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-09 15:01         ` jim owens
2008-07-08  0:06     ` jim owens

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