From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@Sun.COM>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger@shaw.ca>,
Kalpak Shah <Kalpak.Shah@Sun.COM>,
Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:56:18 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080626165618.GP6239@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080626141649.GD3356@shareable.org>
On Jun 26, 2008 15:16 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > > Because xattrs tend to contain user data, not metadata?
> >
> > Agreed, I don't see anything particularly strange about returning the
> > xattr mapping, and to me it's not particularly fs specific (well, the
> > detailed format of the on-disk data might be, i.e. the layout of names &
> > values within that blob of data, but it is still user data... I guess
> > it's something of a grey area).
>
> I'm thinking that some filesystems won't store it as a 'blob' at all,
> but as, for example, leaves in a whole-fs tree structure on the same
> footing as permissions, size, etc.
>
> I don't see a problem with the xattr feature - it might be useful on
> several filesystems. (For my own program which tries to call stat()
> in disk layout order to reduce seeks, knowing xattr blocks _would_ be
> useful, as it could try to get xattrs in disk layout order too).
>
> I just wanted to bring up that "all the xattrs of one inode" aren't
> necessarily a blob of data in the same way as ordinary contents.
> (Just in case it's being assumed that it is.)
It doesn't need to be a "blob", per se. The physical addresses should
really represent where the xattrs are stored on disk, regardless of
whether it is stored in a separate block, or in the inode, or in the
leaves of a filesystem-wide tree. There can be multiple blocks/extents
returned for an XATTR request (as ext4 and ext3 eventually will allow).
The logical offset of an xattr doesn't make so much sense, but I don't
think that is harmful. I'd suggest that multiple xattrs be returned
in the order that a name search would be done, but I don't think it
really matters.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-26 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-25 22:18 [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2 Mark Fasheh
2008-06-26 3:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 9:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 10:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 11:37 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-26 12:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:16 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-26 13:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:48 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 16:56 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2008-06-29 19:12 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-29 21:45 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-30 23:07 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-01 2:01 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-02 6:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 6:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 14:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-27 1:41 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27 9:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 10:01 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27 10:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 22:48 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-28 4:21 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-02 6:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-02 21:20 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-03 14:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 14:04 ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-06-26 14:15 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:27 ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-07-02 23:48 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 11:17 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-03 12:11 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 22:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 8:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 12:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07 7:40 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 16:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07 22:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 21:16 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 3:01 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 22:02 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 2:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 12:21 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 12:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 20:32 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-05 10:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-05 21:44 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-07 23:01 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 1:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 13:02 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:03 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:39 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 1:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-03 14:37 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 15:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-04 8:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 11:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 23:00 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 9:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-07 23:28 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 1:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-09 15:01 ` jim owens
2008-07-08 0:06 ` jim owens
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