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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@Sun.COM>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger@shaw.ca>,
	Kalpak Shah <Kalpak.Shah@Sun.COM>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:56:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080626165618.GP6239@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080626141649.GD3356@shareable.org>

On Jun 26, 2008  15:16 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > > Because xattrs tend to contain user data, not metadata?
> > 
> > Agreed, I don't see anything particularly strange about returning the
> > xattr mapping, and to me it's not particularly fs specific  (well, the
> > detailed format of the on-disk data might be, i.e. the layout of names &
> > values within that blob of data, but it is still user data... I guess
> > it's something of a grey area).
> 
> I'm thinking that some filesystems won't store it as a 'blob' at all,
> but as, for example, leaves in a whole-fs tree structure on the same
> footing as permissions, size, etc.
> 
> I don't see a problem with the xattr feature - it might be useful on
> several filesystems.  (For my own program which tries to call stat()
> in disk layout order to reduce seeks, knowing xattr blocks _would_ be
> useful, as it could try to get xattrs in disk layout order too).
> 
> I just wanted to bring up that "all the xattrs of one inode" aren't
> necessarily a blob of data in the same way as ordinary contents.
> (Just in case it's being assumed that it is.)

It doesn't need to be a "blob", per se.  The physical addresses should
really represent where the xattrs are stored on disk, regardless of
whether it is stored in a separate block, or in the inode, or in the
leaves of a filesystem-wide tree.  There can be multiple blocks/extents
returned for an XATTR request (as ext4 and ext3 eventually will allow).

The logical offset of an xattr doesn't make so much sense, but I don't
think that is harmful.  I'd suggest that multiple xattrs be returned
in the order that a name search would be done, but I don't think it
really matters.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-26 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-25 22:18 [PATCH 0/4] Fiemap, an extent mapping ioctl - round 2 Mark Fasheh
2008-06-26  3:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26  9:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 10:24   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 11:37     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-26 12:19     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:16       ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-26 13:27         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 13:48         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:16           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 16:56             ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2008-06-29 19:12               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-06-29 21:45                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:57                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-30 23:07                     ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-01  2:01                       ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-02  6:38                         ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02  6:33                 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:26                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:17       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-26 14:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-27  1:41   ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27  9:41     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 10:01       ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-27 10:32         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-27 22:48       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-28  4:21         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-02  6:26           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-02 14:28             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-02 21:20               ` Mark Fasheh
2008-07-03 14:45                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 14:04 ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-06-26 14:15   ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-26 14:27     ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-07-02 23:48       ` jim owens
2008-07-03 11:17         ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-03 12:11           ` jim owens
2008-07-03 22:51             ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04  8:31               ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 12:13               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07  7:40                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 16:53                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-07 22:51                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 21:16               ` jim owens
2008-07-08  3:01                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-07 22:02               ` jim owens
2008-07-09  2:03                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 12:21           ` jim owens
2008-07-03 12:42             ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-04 20:32             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-05 10:49               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-05 21:44                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-07-07 23:01               ` jim owens
2008-07-08  1:51                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 13:02                   ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:03                     ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:39                       ` jim owens
2008-07-08 14:30                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09  1:50                       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-26 17:01   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-03 14:37 ` jim owens
2008-07-03 15:17   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-04  8:49     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-04 11:28       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-03 23:00   ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04  9:00   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-07-07 23:28     ` jim owens
2008-07-09  1:53       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-09 15:01         ` jim owens
2008-07-08  0:06     ` jim owens

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