From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
To: Takashi Sato <t-sato@yk.jp.nec.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, mtk.manpages@googlemail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
dm-devel@redhat.com, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Add timeout feature
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:47:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080703124709.GI22522@agk.fab.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9942A69CB65D4A41B39F36AF8EEF6F22@nsl.ad.nec.co.jp>
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 09:11:05PM +0900, Takashi Sato wrote:
> If the freezer accesses the frozen filesystem and causes a deadlock,
> the above ideas can't solve it
But you could also say that if the 'freezer' process accesses the frozen
filesystem and deadlocks then that's just a bug and that userspace code
should be fixed and there's no need to introduce the complexity of a
timeout parameter.
> >Similarly if a device-mapper device is involved, how should the following
> >sequence behave - A, B or C?
> >
> >1. dmsetup suspend (freezes)
> >2. FIFREEZE
> >3. FITHAW
> >4. dmsetup resume (thaws)
> [...]
> >C:
> > 1 succeeds, freezes
> > 2 fails, remains frozen
> > 3 fails (because device-mapper owns the freeze/thaw), remains frozen
> > 4 succeeds, thaws
>
> I think C is appropriate and the following change makes it possible.
> How do you think?
The point I'm trying to make here is:
Under what real-world circumstances might multiple concurrent freezing
attempts occur, and which of A, B or C (or other variations) would be
the most appropriate way of handling such situations?
A common example is people running xfs_freeze followed by an lvm command
which also attempts to freeze the filesystem.
I can see a case for B or C, but personally I prefer A:
> > 1 succeeds, freezes
> > 2 succeeds, remains frozen
> > 3 succeeds, remains frozen
> > 4 succeeds, thaws
Alasdair
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agk@redhat.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-03 12:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-30 12:24 [PATCH 3/3] Add timeout feature Takashi Sato
2008-07-01 8:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-01 10:52 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-03 12:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 12:47 ` Alasdair G Kergon [this message]
2008-07-03 22:11 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 12:08 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 14:45 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-07 11:07 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-08 23:10 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20080708232031.GE18195@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-07-09 0:52 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20080709010922.GE9957@mit.edu>
2008-07-09 4:21 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-09 6:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-09 6:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 7:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 20:48 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 7:13 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 11:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 11:49 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <20080709114958.GV11558@disturbed>
2008-07-09 12:24 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20080709122401.GK9957@mit.edu>
2008-07-09 12:59 ` Olaf Frączyk
2008-07-09 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 13:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 13:58 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 14:13 ` jim owens
2008-07-13 12:06 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-13 17:15 ` jim owens
2008-07-14 6:36 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-14 13:17 ` jim owens
2008-07-14 13:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-14 14:04 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 13:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:59 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 7:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 7:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 8:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 11:15 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
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