From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Takashi Sato <t-sato@yk.jp.nec.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk,
"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
"xfs@oss.sgi.com" <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
axboe@kernel.dk, mtk.manpages@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Add timeout feature
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:10:27 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080708231026.GP11558@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080707110730.GG5643@ucw.cz>
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:07:31PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > I still disagree with this whole patch. There is not reason to let
> > the freeze request timeout - an auto-unfreezing will only confuse the
> > hell out of the caller. The only reason where the current XFS freeze
> > call can hang and this would be theoretically useful is when the
>
> What happens when someone dirties so much data that vm swaps out
> whatever process that frozen the filesystem?
a) you can't dirty a frozen filesystem - by definition a frozen
filesystem is a *clean filesystem* and *cannot be dirtied*.
b) Swap doesn't write through the filesystem
c) you can still read from a frozen filesystem to page your
executableѕ in.
d) if dirtying another unfrozen filesystem swaps out your
application so it can't run, then there's a major VM bug.
Regardless, until the app completes it is relying on the
filesystem being frozen, so it better remain frozen....
> I though that was why the timeout was there...
Not that I know of.
Cheers,
Dave.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-08 23:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-30 12:24 [PATCH 3/3] Add timeout feature Takashi Sato
2008-07-01 8:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-01 10:52 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-03 12:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 12:47 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-03 22:11 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 12:08 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 14:45 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-07 11:07 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-08 23:10 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2008-07-08 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20080708232031.GE18195@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-07-09 0:52 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20080709010922.GE9957@mit.edu>
2008-07-09 4:21 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-09 6:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-09 6:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 7:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 20:48 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 7:13 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 11:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 11:49 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <20080709114958.GV11558@disturbed>
2008-07-09 12:24 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20080709122401.GK9957@mit.edu>
2008-07-09 12:59 ` Olaf Frączyk
2008-07-09 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 13:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 13:58 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 14:13 ` jim owens
2008-07-13 12:06 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-13 17:15 ` jim owens
2008-07-14 6:36 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-14 13:17 ` jim owens
2008-07-14 13:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-14 14:04 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 13:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:59 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 7:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 7:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 8:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 11:15 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-08 11:53 Takashi Sato
2008-09-08 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-25 21:06 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-09-26 8:52 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-26 10:58 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-09-29 11:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-26 12:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-29 14:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-29 14:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-09-29 14:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-29 14:45 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-09-29 22:08 ` jim owens
2008-10-05 10:00 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-09 10:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-10-09 10:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-18 12:28 Takashi Sato
2008-08-21 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-22 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-24 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-08-29 9:39 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-22 9:36 Takashi Sato
2008-06-24 7:00 Takashi Sato
2008-06-24 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-27 11:33 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-27 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-29 23:13 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-30 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
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