From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
andi@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: No, really, stop trying to delete slab until you've finished making slub perform as well
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:11:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080804111158.7f108047@cuia.bos.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48970779.80902@linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:43:21 -0500
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 07:21:01PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> >> - Add a patch that obsoletes SLAB and explains why SLOB does not support
> >> defrag (Either of those could be theoretically equipped to support
> >> slab defrag in some way but it seems that Andrew/Linus want to reduce
> >> the number of slab allocators).
> >
> > Do we have to once again explain that slab still outperforms slub on at
> > least one important benchmark? I hope Nick Piggin finds time to finish
> > tuning slqb; it already outperforms slub.
> >
>
> Uhh. I forgot to delete that statement. I did not include the patch in the series.
>
> We have a fundamental issue design issue there. Queuing on free can result in
> better performance as in SLAB. However, it limits concurrency (per node lock
> taking) and causes latency spikes due to queue processing (f.e. one test load
> had 118.65 vs. 34 usecs just by switching to SLUB).
>
> Could you address the performance issues in different ways? F.e. try to free
> when the object is hot or free from multiple processors? SLAB has to take the
> list_lock rather frequently under high concurrent loads (depends on queue
> size). That will not occur with SLUB. So you actually can free (and allocate)
> concurrently with high performance.
I guess you could bypass the queueing on free for objects that
come from a "local" SLUB page, only queueing objects that go
onto remote pages.
That way workloads that already perform well with SLUB should
keep the current performance, while workloads that currently
perform badly with SLUB should get an improvement.
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-10 2:21 [patch 00/19] Slab Fragmentation Reduction V13 Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 01/19] slub: Add defrag_ratio field and sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 02/19] slub: Replace ctor field with ops field in /sys/slab/* Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 03/19] slub: Add get() and kick() methods Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 04/19] slub: Sort slab cache list and establish maximum objects for defrag slabs Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 05/19] slub: Slab defrag core Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 06/19] slub: Add KICKABLE to avoid repeated kick() attempts Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 07/19] slub: Extend slabinfo to support -D and -F options Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 08/19] slub/slabinfo: add defrag statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 09/19] slub: Trigger defragmentation from memory reclaim Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 10/19] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 11/19] inodes: Support generic defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 12/19] Filesystem: Ext2 filesystem defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 13/19] Filesystem: Ext3 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 14/19] Filesystem: Ext4 " Christoph Lameter
2008-08-03 1:54 ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 7:26 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 15/19] Filesystem: XFS slab defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-08-03 1:42 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-04 13:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 16/19] Filesystem: /proc filesystem support for slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 17/19] Filesystem: Slab defrag: Reiserfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 18/19] dentries: Add constructor Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 2:21 ` [patch 19/19] dentries: dentry defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-08-03 1:58 ` No, really, stop trying to delete slab until you've finished making slub perform as well Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-03 21:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-04 2:37 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-04 21:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-04 21:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-04 23:09 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-04 13:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-04 14:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-04 15:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-04 16:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-04 15:11 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2008-08-04 16:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-04 16:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-04 17:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-04 17:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-05 12:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-05 14:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-06 12:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-06 14:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-13 10:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-13 13:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-13 14:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-13 14:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-13 14:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-13 15:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-14 19:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-15 16:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-15 18:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-15 19:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-18 10:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-18 10:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-18 14:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-19 10:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-19 13:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-20 11:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-08-14 7:15 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-14 14:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-14 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-04 17:19 ` Christoph Lameter
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