From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, gilad@codefidence.com,
matthew@wil.cx
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:19:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080813121941.GA8505@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1218622976.2977.257.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 19:04 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > Anything else I need to address before you pull the tree? Any comment on
> > > the BLKDISCARD ioctl? I've left that one using the non-barrier version
> > > since it's waiting for it anyway, and shouldn't be happening
> > > concurrently with anything else.
> >
> > What makes you think a userspace filesystem or database wouldn't call
> > BLKDISCARD concurrently with anything else?
>
> The BLKDISCARD ioctl is synchronous -- I haven't done an aio version of
> it. Issuing a write to the same sectors before it finishes would be kind
> of silly.
You're right, as long as it's not aio, there's no way to sensibly
order it with concurrent writes; I take it back.
(Aside: You would issue writes to *different* sectors before
BLKDISCARD, and they must be done in that order. That is how you
implement journalling.)
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-13 12:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-09 16:26 [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2 David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:29 ` [PATCH 1/7] [BLOCK] Fix typo causing compile error in blk_queue_bounce() David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] [BLOCK] Fix up comments about matching flags between bio and rq David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] [BLOCK] Add 'discard' request handling David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-09 21:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 6:32 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:31 ` [PATCH 4/7] [FAT] Let the block device know when sectors can be discarded David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:32 ` [PATCH 5/7] [MTD] Support 'discard sectors' operation in translation layer support core David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:33 ` [PATCH 6/7] [MTD] [FTL] Support 'discard sectors' operation David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:33 ` [PATCH 7/7] [BLOCK] Allow elevators to sort/merge discard requests David Woodhouse
2008-10-03 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-07 12:07 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-09 22:48 ` [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2 OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-10 10:25 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 16:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-10 17:55 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-10 20:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 21:40 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-11 9:40 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 10:25 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-11 13:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 14:21 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-10 10:29 ` [PATCH 8/7] blktrace: support discard requests David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 10:35 ` [USERSPACE PATCH] " David Woodhouse
2008-08-15 8:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-15 9:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-15 9:08 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-10 10:41 ` [PATCH 8/7] " David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:17 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-10 11:48 ` [PATCH 9/7] blktrace: simplify flags handling in __blk_add_trace David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 11:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 15:11 ` [PATCH 10/7] [BLOCK] Add BLKDISCARD ioctl to allow userspace to discard sectors David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-11 20:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 9:14 ` [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2 Jens Axboe
2008-08-12 10:00 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 10:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-12 11:16 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 12:19 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 12:53 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-12 13:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 15:47 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 18:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-13 10:22 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 12:19 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-08-13 12:26 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-13 11:23 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:32 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-13 11:34 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 12:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:49 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-14 7:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:25 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:33 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-08-14 7:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-14 7:46 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-08-12 18:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-13 10:20 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 11:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-12 11:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 19:53 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-12 20:11 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-13 11:39 ` [PATCH 11/7] Kill REQ_TYPE_FLUSH David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-13 12:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 15:40 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-13 15:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-16 17:08 ` [PATCH 0/2] MMC discard support (was [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2) Pierre Ossman
2008-08-16 17:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] mmc_block: factor out the mmc request handling Pierre Ossman
2008-08-16 17:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] mmc_block: erase discarded blocks Pierre Ossman
2008-08-16 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/2] MMC discard support (was [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2) David Woodhouse
2008-08-16 17:51 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 9:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-22 10:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 10:58 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-22 11:11 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 11:19 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 11:13 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 11:20 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 14:49 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-22 23:02 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 23:59 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-24 11:23 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-24 13:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
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