From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linuxfoundation.org, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:03:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080916220346.GB10562@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080916064514.GH3241@webber.adilger.int>
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:49:43PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> The intent of this flag was a "catch-all" to indicate it isn't safe
> to try and read this block from disk, either because it is encrypted,
> compressed, on a remote system (HSM or over a network), or maybe not
> even written to disk yet (delalloc).
>
> In some cases (e.g. dump on a snapshot, or boot with LILO) it IS ok to
> read directly from a block device underneath the filesystem, but that
> would completely fail for the above cases.
Indeed, I thought it was pretty clear and obvious, but let me give an
quick but formal definition, and a potential name: DATA_ENCODED
If this flag is not set, then applications that who wish to access the
file data may do so by accessing the block device at the indicated
offset when the filesystem is unmounted. If the filesystem is
mounted, it is undefined whether accessing via the block device will
return valid data. If the flag DATA_ENCODED flag is set, it is almost
certain that an application will never be able to access the file data
via the block device.
Would this make people happy?
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-17 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-13 18:47 YET ANOTHER resend of the fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 18:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 18:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] ocfs2: fiemap support Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 18:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] generic block based fiemap implementation Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 18:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Hook ext4 to the vfs fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 21:17 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level " Anton Altaparmakov
2008-09-13 21:29 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-13 21:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-09-13 22:41 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-13 21:59 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-09-14 13:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 13:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 17:58 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-15 14:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-15 17:53 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-09-16 6:51 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-09-16 21:31 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-20 16:47 ` Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
2008-09-29 1:07 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-29 21:13 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-09-29 22:10 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-14 13:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 18:01 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-14 18:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 19:58 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-15 14:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-16 6:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-09-16 22:03 ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2008-09-17 14:18 ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-17 15:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-17 15:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-19 14:05 ` Chris Mason
2008-09-19 17:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-20 7:43 ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-20 13:50 ` Chris Mason
[not found] ` <20080920135048.GA15698@think.oraclecorp.com>
2008-09-20 15:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-20 15:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-09 1:48 PATCH [0/4] Updated**3 fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <1223516913-17612-1-git-send-email-tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-09 1:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-07 1:06 PATCH [0/4] Updated**2 fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-07 1:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <1223341581-13802-2-git-send-email-tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-03 21:59 [PATCH 0/4] Updated fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-03 21:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-04 2:12 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-06 18:15 ` jim owens
2008-10-06 21:07 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 10:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 10:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-10-07 12:52 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 13:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-07 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 13:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-07 13:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 15:45 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 16:01 ` jim owens
[not found] ` <48EB87DE.4090607-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 18:52 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20081007185219.GD15929-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 20:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 13:48 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 23:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-09 20:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-10-06 13:07 ` steve
2008-06-25 22:18 Mark Fasheh
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