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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, jim owens <jowens@hp.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>,
	linux-abi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:45:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081007154523.GA15929@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081007132854.GA15953@infradead.org>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:28:54AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 02:24:36PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Ok, without getting in the way any more :-) it would be good to
> > clarify in the description whether !(flags & FIEMAP_EXTENT_ENCODED)
> > means only reading is allowed, or if it means writing over the data
> > blocks is safe too.
> > 
> > Just so that filesystems will know whether to set the flag for blocks
> > which can be read but not written.  This may include tail-merged
> > blocks.
> 
> I think writing to a filesystem without fs assistance is always a bad
> idea.  And yes, we should add this to the description.

Ok, how about this?

   * FIEMAP_EXTENT_ENCODED

   This extent does not consistant of plain filesystem blocks but is
   encoded (e.g. encrypted or compressed).  Reading the data in this
   extent via I/O to the block device will have undefined resuts.  

   Note that it is *always* undefined to try to update the data
   in-place by writing to indicated location without the assistance of
   the filesystem, or accessing the data using the information
   returned by the FIEMAP interface while the filesystem is mounted.
   In other words, user applications may only read the extent data via
   I/O to the block device while the filesystem is unmounted, and then
   only if the FIEMAP_EXTENT_ENCODED flag is clear; user applications
   must not try reading or writing to the filesystem via the block
   device under any other circumstances.

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-07 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-03 21:59 [PATCH 0/4] Updated fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-03 21:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-03 21:59   ` [PATCH 2/4] ocfs2: fiemap support Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-03 21:59     ` [PATCH 3/4] generic block based fiemap implementation Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-03 21:59       ` [PATCH 4/4] Hook ext4 to the vfs fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-06 11:35       ` [PATCH 3/4] generic block based fiemap implementation steve
2008-10-06 21:14         ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07  8:14           ` steve
2008-10-04  2:12   ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Tso
2008-10-06 18:15     ` jim owens
2008-10-06 21:07       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 10:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 10:56           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-10-07 12:52             ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 13:00           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-07 13:02             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 13:24               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-07 13:28                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 15:45                   ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2008-10-07 16:01                     ` jim owens
     [not found]                       ` <48EB87DE.4090607-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 18:52                         ` Theodore Tso
     [not found]                           ` <20081007185219.GD15929-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07 20:31                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-07 13:48             ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-07 23:43               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-09 20:40                 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-10-06 13:07   ` steve
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-09  1:48 PATCH [0/4] Updated**3 fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
     [not found] ` <1223516913-17612-1-git-send-email-tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-09  1:48   ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-07  1:06 PATCH [0/4] Updated**2 fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-10-07  1:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]   ` <1223341581-13802-2-git-send-email-tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-07  1:09     ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-13 18:47 YET ANOTHER resend of the fiemap patches Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 18:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] vfs: vfs-level fiemap interface Theodore Ts'o
2008-09-13 21:17   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-09-13 21:29     ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-13 21:45       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-09-13 22:41         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-13 21:59       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-09-14 13:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 13:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 17:58         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-15 14:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-15 17:53             ` Mark Fasheh
2008-09-16  6:51               ` Andreas Dilger
2008-09-16 21:31               ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-20 16:47                 ` Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
2008-09-29  1:07                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-29 21:13                     ` Mark Fasheh
2008-09-29 22:10                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-14 13:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 18:01     ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-14 18:08       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-14 19:58         ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-15 14:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-16  6:49             ` Andreas Dilger
2008-09-16 22:03               ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-17 14:18                 ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-17 15:02                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-17 15:25                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-09-19 14:05                     ` Chris Mason
2008-09-19 17:38                       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-20  7:43                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-09-20 13:50                           ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                           ` <20080920135048.GA15698@think.oraclecorp.com>
2008-09-20 15:36                             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-20 15:44                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-06-25 22:18 Mark Fasheh

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