From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: steve@chygwyn.com, npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:51:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081022125140.GB826@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KsJr2-0006jT-1R@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>
Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, steve@chygwyn.co wrote:
> > Well I'm not sure why we'd need to distinguish between "page has not
> > been read" and "page has been read but no longer valid". I guess I
> > don't understand why those two cases are not the same from the vfs
> > and filesystem points of view.
>
> In the first case the page contains random bytes, in the second case
> it contains actual file data, which has become stale, but at some
> point in time it _was_ the contents of the file.
>
> This is a very important distinction for splice(2) for example.
> Splice does not actually copy data into the pipe buffer, only
> references the pages. And it can reference pages which are not yet
> up-to-date. So when the buffers are consumed from the pipe, the
> splice code needs to know if the page contains random junk (never
> brought up-to-date) or data that is, or once was, valid.
So GFS goes to great lengths to ensure that read/write are coherent,
so are mmaps (writable or not), but _splice_ is not coherent in the
sense that it can send invalid but non-random data? :-)
Also, is there still a problem where the data is "valid" but part of
the page may have been zero'd by truncate, which is then transmitted
by splice?
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-22 12:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 11:21 [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38 ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 12:51 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-10-22 14:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25 ` steve
2008-10-21 16:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23 ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23 9:59 ` steve
2008-10-23 10:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30 ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46 ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 7:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23 7:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 9:44 ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24 1:05 ` Nick Piggin
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