From: Nick Piggin <npiggin-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
xfs-VZNHf3L845pBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:16:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081030021601.GF18041@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1225292196.6448.263.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:36AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 09:32 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> > Jamie Lokier wrote:
>
> > >> Is there anything that particularly makes it a file operation
> > >> as opposed to an inode operation?
> > >>
> > >
> > > In principle, is fsync() required to flush all dirty data written
> > > through any file descriptor ever, or just dirty data written through
> > > the file descriptor used for fsync()?
> > >
> > > -- Jamie
> > > --
> > >
> > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/fsync.html
> >
> > Is a pointer to what seems to be the official posix spec for this - it
> > is definitely per file descriptor, not per file system, etc...
> >
>
> Maybe I'm reading Jamie's question wrong, but I think he's saying:
>
> /* open exactly the same file twice */
> fd = open("file");
> fd2 = open("file");
>
> write(fd, "stuff")
> write(fd2, "more stuff")
> fsync(fd);
>
> Does the fsync promise "more stuff" will be on disk? I think the answer
> should be yes.
I think so. And this is in the context of making ->fsync an inode
operation and avoid the NFS NULL-file problem... I don't think there
is any fd specific metadata that fsync has to deal with? Any other
reasons it has to be a file operation?
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-28 14:47 [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 1/9] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix npiggin
2008-10-29 0:24 ` [patch 1.1/9] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix fix Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 2/9] mm: write_cache_pages early loop termination npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 3/9] mm: write_cache_pages writepage error fix npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 4/9] mm: write_cache_pages integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 5/9] mm: write_cache_pages cleanups npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 6/9] mm: write_cache_pages optimise page cleaning npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 7/9] mm: write_cache_pages terminate quickly npiggin
2008-10-30 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31 7:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 8/9] mm: write_cache_pages more " npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 9/9] mm: do_sync_mapping_range integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-30 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31 9:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-31 10:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31 10:53 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-31 20:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-31 14:10 ` Chris Mason
2008-10-31 14:30 ` steve
2008-10-31 15:02 ` Chris Mason
2008-11-01 8:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 15:39 ` [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 22:27 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 0:04 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 0:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 3:16 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 3:26 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 4:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 4:57 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 9:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 21:42 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 21:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 21:53 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 4:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 5:27 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 9:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 9:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 9:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 10:30 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 12:22 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20081029122234.GE846-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-29 13:32 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-29 14:56 ` Chris Mason
[not found] ` <1225292196.6448.263.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 2:16 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
[not found] ` <20081030021601.GF18041-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 12:51 ` jim owens
2008-10-30 13:41 ` Jim Rees
2008-10-29 21:43 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 8:51 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-28 23:14 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-28 23:57 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 0:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-29 0:10 ` Nick Piggin
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