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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	xfs-VZNHf3L845pBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:16:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081030021601.GF18041@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1225292196.6448.263.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:36AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 09:32 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> > Jamie Lokier wrote:
> 
> > >> Is there anything that particularly makes it a file operation
> > >> as opposed to an inode operation?
> > >>     
> > >
> > > In principle, is fsync() required to flush all dirty data written
> > > through any file descriptor ever, or just dirty data written through
> > > the file descriptor used for fsync()?
> > >
> > > -- Jamie
> > > --
> > >   
> > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/fsync.html
> > 
> > Is a pointer to what seems to be the official posix spec for this - it 
> > is definitely per file descriptor, not per file system, etc...
> > 
> 
> Maybe I'm reading Jamie's question wrong, but I think he's saying:
> 
> /* open exactly the same file twice */
> fd = open("file");
> fd2 = open("file");
> 
> write(fd, "stuff")
> write(fd2, "more stuff")
> fsync(fd);
> 
> Does the fsync promise "more stuff" will be on disk?  I think the answer
> should be yes.

I think so. And this is in the context of making ->fsync an inode
operation and avoid the NFS NULL-file problem... I don't think there
is any fd specific metadata that fsync has to deal with? Any other
reasons it has to be a file operation?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-30  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-28 14:47 [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 1/9] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix npiggin
2008-10-29  0:24   ` [patch 1.1/9] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix fix Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 2/9] mm: write_cache_pages early loop termination npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 3/9] mm: write_cache_pages writepage error fix npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 4/9] mm: write_cache_pages integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 5/9] mm: write_cache_pages cleanups npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 6/9] mm: write_cache_pages optimise page cleaning npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 7/9] mm: write_cache_pages terminate quickly npiggin
2008-10-30 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31  7:29     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 8/9] mm: write_cache_pages more " npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 9/9] mm: do_sync_mapping_range integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-30 23:13   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31  9:16     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-31 10:04       ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31 10:53         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-31 20:03         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-31 14:10       ` Chris Mason
2008-10-31 14:30         ` steve
2008-10-31 15:02           ` Chris Mason
2008-11-01  8:04         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 15:39 ` [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 22:27   ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  0:04     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  0:16     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  3:16       ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  3:26         ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  4:11           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  4:57             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  5:06               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  9:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 21:42             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 21:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 21:53                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  4:00         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  5:27           ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  9:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29  9:21           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  9:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 10:30               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 12:22                 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                   ` <20081029122234.GE846-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-29 13:32                     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-29 14:56                       ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                         ` <1225292196.6448.263.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30  2:16                           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <20081030021601.GF18041-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 12:51                               ` jim owens
2008-10-30 13:41                                 ` Jim Rees
2008-10-29 21:43                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  8:51     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-28 23:14 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-28 23:57   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  0:05     ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-29  0:10       ` Nick Piggin

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