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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, david@fromorbit.com,
	chris.mason@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [patch 9/9] mm: do_sync_mapping_range integrity fix
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:16:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081031091616.GF19268@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081030161344.0ed5ca52.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 04:13:44PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:47:24 +1100
> npiggin@suse.de wrote:
> 
> > Chris Mason notices do_sync_mapping_range didn't actually ask for data
> > integrity writeout. Unfortunately, it is advertised as being usable for
> > data integrity operations.
> > 
> > This is a data interity bug.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
> > ---
> > Index: linux-2.6/fs/sync.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6.orig/fs/sync.c
> > +++ linux-2.6/fs/sync.c
> > @@ -269,7 +269,7 @@ int do_sync_mapping_range(struct address
> >  
> >  	if (flags & SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) {
> >  		ret = __filemap_fdatawrite_range(mapping, offset, endbyte,
> > -						WB_SYNC_NONE);
> > +						WB_SYNC_ALL);
> >  		if (ret < 0)
> >  			goto out;
> >  	}
> > 
> 
> Really?
> 
> Some thought did go into the code which you're "fixing".

Yes, I even remember something of a flamewar involving me and you :)


>  If the caller
> is using sync_file_range() for integrity then the caller has done a
> SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_BEFORE.

No disputes about whether the API works "by design". But I think the
implementation has a bug. I'll explain:

 
> So all we need to guarantee here is that
> __filemap_fdatawrite_range(WB_SYNC_NONE) will start writeout on all
> dirty pages in the range.  Probably that gets broken lower down as part
> of various hacks^woptimisations have gone in, but which ones, and
> where?  Perhaps _this_ (if it's there) is what should be fixed.

WB_SYNC_NONE has never (until this was introduced) been used for data
integrity AFAIKS. There is code littered throughout fs/ which assumes
WB_SYNC_NONE ~= "efficiency / background writeback". At least
definitely the buffer.c "trylock" will cause dirty pages to be
skipped. There is also a fair amount of filesystem code I haven't looked
at. The fs-writeback.c code might not affect this path, but it also
definitely makes the same assumption about WB_SYNC_NONE, so it would be
ugly to mandate WB_SYNC_NONE is for data integrity from mapping downard,
but not from inode upward...

I didn't check, but I suspect this has been broken since it got merged.

 
> And if we _do_ make the above change, we don't need to run the
> wait_on_page_writeback_range() if userspace asked for
> SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_BEFORE|SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE, yes?

Now you're asking the hard questions... I think we still have to wait,
because SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE itself doesn't necessarily wait for writeback.
After the optimisation to skip waiting for clean and writeback pages
in write_cache_pages, actually I think this change (to use WB_SYNC_ALL)
should not hurt very much...

> 
> 
> 
> IOW, I don't think enough thought (or at least description of that
> thought) has gone into this one.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-31  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-28 14:47 [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 1/9] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix npiggin
2008-10-29  0:24   ` [patch 1.1/9] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix fix Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 2/9] mm: write_cache_pages early loop termination npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 3/9] mm: write_cache_pages writepage error fix npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 4/9] mm: write_cache_pages integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 5/9] mm: write_cache_pages cleanups npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 6/9] mm: write_cache_pages optimise page cleaning npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 7/9] mm: write_cache_pages terminate quickly npiggin
2008-10-30 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31  7:29     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 8/9] mm: write_cache_pages more " npiggin
2008-10-28 14:47 ` [patch 9/9] mm: do_sync_mapping_range integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-30 23:13   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31  9:16     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-10-31 10:04       ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-31 10:53         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-31 20:03         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-31 14:10       ` Chris Mason
2008-10-31 14:30         ` steve
2008-10-31 15:02           ` Chris Mason
2008-11-01  8:04         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 15:39 ` [patch 0/9] writeback data integrity and other fixes (take 3) Nick Piggin
2008-10-28 22:27   ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  0:04     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  0:16     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  3:16       ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  3:26         ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  4:11           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  4:57             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  5:06               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  9:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 21:42             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29 21:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 21:53                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  4:00         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  5:27           ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  9:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29  9:21           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  9:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-29 10:30               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29 12:22                 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                   ` <20081029122234.GE846-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-29 13:32                     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-10-29 14:56                       ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                         ` <1225292196.6448.263.camel-cGoWVVl3WGUrkklhUoBCrlaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30  2:16                           ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                             ` <20081030021601.GF18041-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 12:51                               ` jim owens
2008-10-30 13:41                                 ` Jim Rees
2008-10-29 21:43                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-29  8:51     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-28 23:14 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-28 23:57   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-29  0:05     ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-29  0:10       ` Nick Piggin

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