From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: do_sync() and XFSQA test 182 failures....
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:22:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081031222232.GB29761@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081031215430.GB19509@disturbed>
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 08:54:30AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> Effectively, yes.
>
> Currently we iterate inodes for data and "metadata" sync, and the
> only other concept is writing superblocks. I think most filesystems
> have more types of metadata than this, so it makes sense for sync to
> work on abstracts sync as data and metadata rather than data, inodes
> and superblocks...
Yes, absolutely. And for those that have inodes as primary / only
metadata besides superblock we can still provide a generic_sync_inodes
helper that just takes a callback to apply to every inode. Which we
probably want anyway as XFS is the only intree-filesystem that currently
has a more efficient way to iterate inodes.
> > And as we found out it's not just sync that gets it wrong, it's also
> > fsync (which isn't part of the above picture as it's per-inode) that
> > gets this utterly wrong, as well as all kinds of syncs, not just the
> > unmount one.
>
> Async writeback (write_inode()) has the same problem as fsync -
> writing the inode before waiting for data I/O to complete - which
> means we've got to jump through hoops in the filesystem to avoid
> blocking on inodes that can't be immediately flushed, and often we
> end up writing the inode multiple times and having to issue log
> forces whenw e shouldn't need to. Effectively we have to tell the
> VFS to "try again later" the entire time data is being flushed
> before we can write the inode and it's exceedingly inefficient.....
Yes, that was the couple of sync functions I meant above as the whole
inode writeback path is extremly convoluted - mostly due to the dirty
data vs metadata mixup mess.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-31 22:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-30 8:50 do_sync() and XFSQA test 182 failures Dave Chinner
2008-10-30 22:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-31 0:12 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-31 0:48 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-31 20:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-31 21:54 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-31 22:22 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-10-31 4:02 ` Lachlan McIlroy
2008-10-31 13:06 ` Dave Chinner
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