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From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, val.henson@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] relatime: Make relatime smarter
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:35:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081127223514.GP25548@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081127220839.GK3186@webber.adilger.int>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 03:08:39PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Nov 27, 2008  17:58 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > +	relatime_interval=
> > +			[FS] relative atime update frequency, in seconds.
> > +			(default: 1 day: 86400 seconds)
> 
> The one problem with a 1-day default is that cron jobs like updatedb will
> revert to updating the atime on every single file every day.  It would be
> better to make it slightly more than 1 day (e.g. 25h) to avoid this and
> at least defer atime updates to every other day for files that are not
> otherwise accessed except by cron.

Doesn't updatedb only access directories, not files?  I don't think
relatime implies nodiratime, but certainly the two could both be
specified, and that would fix one of the updatedb problems.  Are there
any other common cronjobs you're concerned about?

-- 
Matthew Wilcox				Intel Open Source Technology Centre
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-27 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-26 19:54 [PATCH 1/2] relatime: Make atime updates more useful Matthew Garrett
2008-11-26 19:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour Matthew Garrett
2008-11-26 21:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-26 22:39   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-11-27 15:01     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] relatime: Make relatime behaviour smarter Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 15:03       ` [PATCH v2 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 15:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-27 16:03         ` Karel Zak
     [not found]           ` <20081127160353.GQ2961-sHeGUpI7y9L/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-27 17:30             ` Pádraig Brady
     [not found]               ` <492ED945.5010600-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-27 17:39                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 16:35         ` Alan Cox
2008-11-27 16:47           ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 16:59             ` [PATCH v3] relatime: Make relatime smarter Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 17:06               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-27 17:58                 ` [PATCH v4] " Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 22:08                   ` Andreas Dilger
2008-11-27 22:35                     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2008-11-28 11:13                     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-28 13:41                     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-28 11:18                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-28 13:40                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-28 13:47                       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-02 11:10                       ` Karel Zak
2008-12-02 16:46                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-27 19:15               ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Cox
2008-11-28 11:16                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-28 13:45                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 17:03         ` [PATCH v2 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-29  8:24           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 13:03             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-29 13:57               ` Jörn Engel
2008-11-29 18:56                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-29 19:02                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-29 20:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 20:38                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-29 20:56                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 21:41                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-29 20:55                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-29 21:03                         ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-29 21:02                       ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 15:06       ` [PATCH v2 1/2] relatime: Make relatime behaviour smarter Ingo Molnar
2008-11-29  8:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] relatime: Make atime updates more useful Andrew Morton
2008-12-02 17:19 ` [PATCH] relatime: Let relatime update atime at least once per day Matthew Garrett
2008-12-13  5:26   ` Valerie Aurora Henson

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