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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: David Brown <lkml@davidb.org>
Cc: Phil Oester <kernel@linuxace.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Squashfs pull request for 2.6.29
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:19:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090109211937.GA14342@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109193738.GA9827@linode.davidb.org>

On Fri, 9 January 2009 11:37:39 -0800, David Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 05:54:22PM +0100, Jörn Engel wrote:
> >
> >In general, filesystems and ABI changes are special because stupid
> >mistakes are eternal.  If some device driver has a bug, you can fix it,
> >reboot and be done with it.  Not so with filesystems.
> 
> Squashfs is readonly from the kernel.  The images are created with
> userspace tools.

While true, it doesn't make a difference.  If, for example, your
structures members are not naturally aligned, you take a performance hit
for no good reason.  Simply moving fields around would make the code
go faster.  But the format is fixed and prevents you from making this
change.

You have to get those things right from the beginning or pay for your
mistakes everafter.  In general (and I stress "In general") filesystems
want more review than ordinary device drivers.  And just to stress that
again, this is not an argument against merging squashfs now.

Jörn

-- 
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability.
-- Edsger W. Dijkstra

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-09 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-08 16:48 [GIT PULL] Squashfs pull request for 2.6.29 Phillip Lougher
2009-01-08 16:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-08 17:05   ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-08 17:11   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-01-08 23:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09  1:53   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09  2:11     ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-09  2:24       ` Kay Sievers
2009-01-09  2:36         ` Phil Oester
2009-01-09 16:54           ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-09 19:37             ` David Brown
2009-01-09 21:19               ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2009-01-10 12:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-10 16:50                   ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 18:12                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-10 18:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-10 19:57                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-10 20:16                           ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-01-11  6:36                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-10 19:19                       ` Olivier Galibert
2009-01-10 22:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11  9:30                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-01-11 15:39                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 16:30                             ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 21:50                               ` Dave Jones
2009-01-22 21:57                                 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-22 22:15                                   ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 21:58                                 ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 22:26                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:50                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-22 23:04                                     ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 23:25                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:34                                       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-22 23:41                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 23:28                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:16                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:24                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23  0:16                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-23  0:30                                   ` Greg KH
2009-01-09  2:30     ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-09 11:25     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-09 12:02     ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09 21:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 22:08         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 22:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 22:26             ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09 22:36               ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-11  3:01         ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-11  3:06           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 16:32     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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