From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: David Brown <lkml@davidb.org>, Phil Oester <kernel@linuxace.com>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Squashfs pull request for 2.6.29
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:43:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090110124335.GB30744@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109211937.GA14342@logfs.org>
* Jörn Engel <joern@logfs.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 January 2009 11:37:39 -0800, David Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 05:54:22PM +0100, Jörn Engel wrote:
> > >
> > > In general, filesystems and ABI changes are special because stupid
> > > mistakes are eternal. If some device driver has a bug, you can fix
> > > it, reboot and be done with it. Not so with filesystems.
> >
> > Squashfs is readonly from the kernel. The images are created with
> > userspace tools.
>
> While true, it doesn't make a difference. If, for example, your
> structures members are not naturally aligned, you take a performance hit
> for no good reason. Simply moving fields around would make the code go
> faster. But the format is fixed and prevents you from making this
> change.
>
> You have to get those things right from the beginning or pay for your
> mistakes everafter. In general (and I stress "In general") filesystems
> want more review than ordinary device drivers. And just to stress that
> again, this is not an argument against merging squashfs now.
What does a performance hit have to do with an ABI? Absolutely nothing -
if such a bug is noticed it is fixed, that's it. Your argument does not
parse and makes absolutely zero technical sense.
Your "ABI is forever" objection against a _read only_ filesystem is a
newbie mistake worthy of cookie file inclusion - i had a real good laugh
when i read it ;-)
Ingo
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-08 16:48 [GIT PULL] Squashfs pull request for 2.6.29 Phillip Lougher
2009-01-08 16:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-08 17:05 ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-08 17:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-01-08 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 2:11 ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-09 2:24 ` Kay Sievers
2009-01-09 2:36 ` Phil Oester
2009-01-09 16:54 ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-09 19:37 ` David Brown
2009-01-09 21:19 ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-10 16:50 ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 18:12 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-10 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-10 19:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-10 20:16 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-01-11 6:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-10 19:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2009-01-10 22:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 9:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-01-11 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 16:30 ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 21:50 ` Dave Jones
2009-01-22 21:57 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-22 22:15 ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 21:58 ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 22:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:50 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-22 23:04 ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 23:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:34 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-22 23:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 23:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23 0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-23 0:30 ` Greg KH
2009-01-09 2:30 ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-09 11:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-09 12:02 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 22:08 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 22:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09 22:36 ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-11 3:01 ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-11 3:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 16:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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