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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: kyle@infradead.org
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	J?rn Engel <joern@logfs.org>, David Brown <lkml@davidb.org>,
	Phil Oester <kernel@linuxace.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Squashfs pull request for 2.6.29
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:41:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090122234145.GA469@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090122233439.GB21879@bombadil.infradead.org>


* Kyle McMartin <kyle@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 03:04:57PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Why does it need to be upstream for someone to cut their teeth helping
> > > out?
> > Because people don't know where to look if it is out-of-the tree.
> > Seriously, if it can't be easily found, it's not fixed up.  Proof of
> > that is the hundreds of out-of-tree drivers that I have found over the
> > past months.
> 
> What about the hundreds of utterly crap drivers we have *right now* in 
> the kernel? Just because something is distributed with the kernel does 
> *not* mean it will get cleaned up. There's hundreds of counterexamples 
> to that. If you think moving some of them to drivers/staging to increase 
> the "visibility" to people looking for low hanging fruit, I can generate 
> a list...

that is true and it does not contradict the purpose and intention of 
drivers/staging/ though - it extends it.

We could create drivers/staging/in/ and drivers/staging/out/.

So instead of marking drivers CONFIG_BROKEN we could move them to 
drivers/staging/out/ - and if they dont get 'saved' within a kernel 
release they will be zapped for good. That is more gradual than a sudden 
'remove a driver completely' action.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-22 23:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-08 16:48 [GIT PULL] Squashfs pull request for 2.6.29 Phillip Lougher
2009-01-08 16:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-08 17:05   ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-08 17:11   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-01-08 23:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09  1:53   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09  2:11     ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-09  2:24       ` Kay Sievers
2009-01-09  2:36         ` Phil Oester
2009-01-09 16:54           ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-09 19:37             ` David Brown
2009-01-09 21:19               ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 12:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-10 16:50                   ` Jörn Engel
2009-01-10 18:12                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-10 18:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-10 19:57                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-01-10 20:16                           ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-01-11  6:36                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-10 19:19                       ` Olivier Galibert
2009-01-10 22:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11  9:30                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-01-11 15:39                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-11 16:30                             ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 21:50                               ` Dave Jones
2009-01-22 21:57                                 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-22 22:15                                   ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 21:58                                 ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 22:26                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:50                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-22 23:04                                     ` Greg KH
2009-01-22 23:25                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 23:34                                       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-01-22 23:41                                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-22 23:28                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-22 22:16                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 22:24                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-01-23  0:16                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-23  0:30                                   ` Greg KH
2009-01-09  2:30     ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-09 11:25     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-09 12:02     ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09 21:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 22:08         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 22:12           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 22:26             ` Alan Cox
2009-01-09 22:36               ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-11  3:01         ` Phillip Lougher
2009-01-11  3:06           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 16:32     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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