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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] mm: new address space calls
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:26:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090227112622.GA13428@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1235654505.26790.12.camel@think.oraclecorp.com>

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 08:21:45AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> > > One problem I have with the btrfs extent state code is that I might
> > > choose to release the extent state in releasepage, but the VM might not
> > > choose to free the page.  So I've got an up to date page without any of
> > > the rest of my state.
> > 
> > I'm not sure. What semantics do you want there? In most cases (including
> > fsblock default case where the filesystem does not have a pin), we're
> > happy to leave clean, uptodate pages in pagecache in that case.
> 
> Right, but it really limits the state that we can keep outside the page
> bits.  Take a subpage block, where we know the first 1k is up to date.
> releasepage comes and we free our tracking that says the first 1k is up
> to date, but the VM doesn't free the page.
> 
> Now we have a page where the uptodate bit isn't set, but the first 1k
> has valid data.  We have to reread it.

Well I don't see how that limits us? Either we prefer to keep the
metadata, or we throw it away and it is inevitable that we lose
information. 

Regardless of whether you store the data in a tree of extends in the
inode, or per-page buffers, you have the same problem (buffer heads
have that same problem too).


> I'd like a form of releasepage that knows if the vm is going to really
> get rid of the page.  Or another callback that happens when the VM is
> sure the page will be freed so we can drop extra metadata that doesn't
> pin the page, but we always want to stay with the page.

Well, for page reclaim/invalidate/truncate, we have releasepage that you
can use even if the metadata is stored outside the page, just set PagePrivate
and it will still get called when the page is about to be freed.

There are *some* races that can result in the page subsequently not being
freed, but I don't think that should be a big deal. I don't want to add
a callback in the pagecache remove path if possible, but we can try to
rework or improve things if btrfs needs something specific..

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-27 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-25 10:48 [patch][rfc] mm: new address space calls Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 20:59 ` Chris Mason
2009-02-26  5:17   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-26 13:21     ` Chris Mason
2009-02-27 11:26       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-02-27 13:52         ` Chris Mason
2009-02-28  5:52           ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-28 23:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-01  2:38     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-28 23:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-01  2:45   ` Nick Piggin

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