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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: jim owens <jowens@hp.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] mm: hold page lock over page_mkwrite
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:13:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090304181347.GA10233@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090304092343.GB27043@wotan.suse.de>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Suppose the systems has two pages to be written.  The first must
> > _reserve_ 40 pages of scratch space just in case the operation will
> > need them.  If the second page write is initiated concurrently with
> > the first, the second must reserve another 40 pages concurrently.
> > 
> > If 10 page writes are concurrent, that's 400 pages of scratch space
> > needed in reserve...
> 
> You only need to guarantee forward progress, so you would reserve
> 40 pages up front for the entire machine (some mempools have more
> memory than strictly needed to improve performance, so you could
> toy with that, but let's just describe the baseline).
> 
> So allocations happen as normal, except when an allocation fails,
> then the task which fails the allocation is given access to this
> reserve memory, any other task requiring reserve will then block.
> 
> Now the reserve provides enough pages to guarantee forward progress,
> so that one task is going to be able to proceed and eventually its
> pages will become freeable and can be returned to the reserve. Once
> the writeout has finished, the reserve will become available to
> other tasks.
> 
> So this way you only have to reserve enough to write out 1 page,
> and you only start blocking things when their memory allocations
> wolud have failed *anyway*. And you guarantee forward progress.

Ah.  *light bulb*  In the writing tasks, memory allocation is
forbidden, but blocking is allowed.  That's what I was missing :-)

Forward progress marches on.

-- Jamie

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      reply	other threads:[~2009-03-04 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-25  9:36 [patch][rfc] mm: hold page lock over page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 16:42 ` Zach Brown
2009-02-25 16:55   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 16:58     ` Zach Brown
2009-02-25 17:02       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 22:35         ` Mark Fasheh
2009-02-25 16:48 ` Chris Mason
2009-02-26  9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-26 11:09   ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-01  8:17 ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-01 13:50   ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02  8:19     ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-02  8:37       ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02 15:26         ` jim owens
2009-03-03  4:33           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-03 17:25             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-03-04  4:37               ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-04  9:23               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-04 18:13                 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]

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