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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joe Malicki <jmalicki@metacarta.com>,
	Michael Itz <mitz@metacarta.com>,
	Kenneth Baker <bakerk@metacarta.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: check_unsafe_exec() races (Was: [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:15:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090421171530.GA12014@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904210924270.2199@localhost.localdomain>

On 04/21, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > > (You do rcu_read_unlock() earlier, but that's okay.)
> >
> > Yes, but unless we have a "strong" reason, it is better to take
> > fs->lock first. rcu_read_lock() is free, but disables preemption.
>
> .. but so does taking a spinlock. So it shouldn't matter.
>
> We could play games with that (the same way I think we have some games for
> large-system irq latency with '__raw_spin_lock_flags()' on ia64), but that
> makes sense only when you have lots of CPU's and expect irq latency to
> suffer.
>
> And it doesn't tend to make sense for preemption latency, because if you
> have so many CPU's that you have lots of spinning on locks, you would
> normally not really care deeply about preemption (sure, in theory it's a
> real-time thing, in practice I doubt you'll find anybody who cares).

OK, I agree, it doesn't really matter from latency/etc pov.

But still I can't understand why it is better to take fs->lock under
RCU lock. I mean, "fs->lock is the innermost lock" should not apply
to rcu_read_lock(). Because the latter is a bit special, no?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-21 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-28 23:16 [PATCH 1/4] compat_do_execve should unshare_files Hugh Dickins
2009-03-28 23:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't Hugh Dickins
2009-03-29  0:53   ` Q: check_unsafe_exec() races (Was: [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't) Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29  4:10     ` Al Viro
2009-03-29  4:14       ` Al Viro
2009-03-29  4:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29  5:55         ` Al Viro
2009-03-29  6:01           ` Al Viro
2009-03-29 21:36             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29 22:20               ` Al Viro
2009-03-29 23:56                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30  0:03                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30  1:08                     ` Al Viro
2009-03-30  1:13                       ` Al Viro
2009-03-30  1:36                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30  1:40                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30 12:31                             ` Al Viro
2009-03-30 14:32                               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-31  6:16                                 ` Al Viro
2009-04-01  0:28                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-01  2:38                                     ` Al Viro
2009-04-01  3:03                                       ` Al Viro
2009-04-01 11:25                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-06 15:31                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-19 16:30                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-21 16:10                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-21 16:31                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 17:15                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-04-21 17:35                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 19:39                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-23 23:01                                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] do_execve() must not clear fs->in_exec if it was set by another thread Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 23:18                                                         ` Roland McGrath
2009-04-23 23:31                                                         ` Al Viro
2009-04-24 11:57                                                           ` [PATCH 3/2] check_unsafe_exec: rcu_read_unlock Hugh Dickins
2009-04-24 14:34                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24  4:20                                                         ` [PATCH 1/2] do_execve() must not clear fs->in_exec if it was set by another thread Hugh Dickins
2009-04-23 23:02                                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] check_unsafe_exec: s/lock_task_sighand/rcu_read_lock/ Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 23:18                                                         ` Roland McGrath
2009-04-24  4:29                                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-01 11:18                                       ` Q: check_unsafe_exec() races (Was: [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't) Hugh Dickins
2009-04-06 15:51                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-19 16:44                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-21 16:39                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30 23:45                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-31  6:19                                 ` Al Viro
2009-03-28 23:21 ` [PATCH 3/4] fix setuid sometimes wouldn't Hugh Dickins
2009-03-29 11:19   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-29 21:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29 22:37       ` Al Viro
2009-03-28 23:23 ` [PATCH 4/4] Annotate struct fs_struct's usage count restriction Hugh Dickins

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