From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:03:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090427170314.GA9807@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090427162920.GA6781@mit.edu>
Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:47:42PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Personally, I'm interested in the following:
> >
> > - A process with RT I/O priority and RT CPU priority is reading
> > a series of files from disk. It should be very reliable at this.
> >
> > - Other normal I/O priority and normal CPU priority processes are
> > reading and writing the disk.
> >
> > I would like the first process to have a guaranteed minimum I/O
> > performance: it should continuously make progress, even when it needs
> > to read some file metadata which overlaps a page affected by the other
> > processes.
>
> That's pretty easy. The much harder and much more interesting problem
> is if the process with RT I/O and CPU priority is *writing* a series
> of files to disk, and not just reading from disk.
...
> I can't think of a filesystem where we would block a
> read operation for long time just because someone was holding some
> kind of filesytem-wide lock. A spinlock, maybe, but the only time it
> makes sense to worry about boosting an I/O priority is if we're going
> to be blocing a filesystem for milliseconds or more, and not just a
> few tens of microseconds.
...
> For the former, where a real-time read request gets blocked because
> the read request for that block had already been submitted --- at a
> lower priority --- that's something that should be solvable purely in
> core block layer and in the I/O scheduler layer, I would expect.
That's great to know, thanks. I will poke at the block layer and I/O
scheduler then, see where it leads.
Thanks,
-- Jamie
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-27 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-23 19:18 get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-23 19:21 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Jens Axboe
2009-04-23 21:23 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Jamie Lokier
2009-04-24 5:58 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Jens Axboe
2009-04-24 18:40 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-25 15:16 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Theodore Tso
2009-04-27 9:53 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Jens Axboe
2009-04-27 11:33 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Theodore Tso
2009-04-27 14:47 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Jamie Lokier
2009-04-27 16:29 ` get_fs_excl/put_fs_excl/has_fs_excl Theodore Tso
2009-04-27 17:03 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
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