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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ogawa Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Tridgell <tridge@samba.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:01:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090501210109.GA3079@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524f69650905011318m34e0027dt57877d225b3fe2da@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:18:20PM -0500, Steve French wrote:
> For those manufacturers who who would like to disable
> creation of long file names, but allow reading long file names,
> and handle FAT32 on disk format and maximum sizes, it seems
> reasonable to give them a simple configure option for it.  It is
> harder, and less effective, to make the corresponding change
> to modify the mount helper and kernel code to add
> a new mount option, because it can be bypassed trivially
> at the command line (ie having to "force" mount to pass a "nolongfilename"
> mount option, would be harder than a simple kernel configure option)

Steve, can you please stop the bullshitting?

>From the complete lack of technical arguments it's pretty obvious that
this seems to be some FUD fallout from the MS vs TomTom patent lawsuite.

I'm not a lawyer so I don't know how much of a threat it is.  But either
the case gets shot down by showing prior art and everything is fine, or
we indeed are in deep trouble and should remove it completely.  Given
the Cc list on here IBM seems to have some legal opinion on it, so can
we please see it and discuss what we want to with all cards on the
table?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-01 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-01 20:18 [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Steve French
2009-05-01 21:01 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-05-02  1:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02  1:59     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-02  3:02       ` Steve French
2009-05-02  4:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02  9:15       ` tridge
2009-05-02  9:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  9:30           ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-03 21:57             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-03 22:25               ` tridge
2009-05-03 22:56                 ` Al Viro
2009-05-03 23:15                   ` tridge
2009-05-04  5:42                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04  6:34                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04  6:49                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 12:41                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 12:44                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 13:06                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 13:21                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 14:39                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:08                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 15:36                                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 15:59                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:07                                           ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 16:30                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:42                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:18                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 17:49                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:54                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 18:14                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 18:17                                                 ` Al Viro
2009-05-04 20:18                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:06                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2009-05-04 17:27                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 20:53                                                   ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-04 23:03                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 11:09                                                       ` David Newall
2009-05-05 20:56                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:04                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-05 22:29                                                             ` Steve French
2009-05-05  8:31                                               ` Zero-day exploit details (Was: Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option) David Newall
2009-05-04 16:11                                           ` [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:38                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:55                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 16:10                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 16:22                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 22:12                                               ` Greg KH
2009-05-05  2:01                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05  2:11                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  2:18                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05  3:34                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  8:05                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 15:35                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 21:00                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:56                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  3:08                                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-04 15:55                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 16:11                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:40                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-02  6:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  2:12   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-02  6:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-01 17:41 Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 17:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-01 18:12   ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:19     ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 19:09       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 10:09 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:14   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:26     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:41       ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:03         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:13           ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:29             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:41               ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:59                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 12:15                   ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:48                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 13:06                       ` tridge
2009-05-02 14:01                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-27 12:05                   ` vimal singh
2009-05-27 23:57                     ` tridge
2009-06-04 10:26                       ` vimal singh
2009-06-04 21:33                         ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:20   ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:32     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-03 21:56 ` Pavel Machek

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