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From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
To: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 19:06:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090504170636.GA56325@dspnet.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1k54wal0j.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:30:20AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> When all of the pieces are public how can having secret veiled reasons
> make sense?

Because knowingly violating a patent triples the damages, among other
things.

There's a persistent rumor that a valid microsoft US software patent
exists that covers the standard method of handling long file names on
FAT filesystems.  It seems that such a patent is used by microsoft in
litigations, the latest being against tomtom.  I think all of these
litigations have been settled, but I can easily be wrong.

I have no idea whether such a patent actually exists, and even knowing
the reference (I don't) I am not competent to judge what it covers or
whether it would actually hold up in court.

But knowingly violating a patent is consider way worse in US courts
than simple independant recreation.  So I guess the knowingly part is
what the "you need a local lawyer" crowd tries to avoid.

  OG.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-04 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-01 20:18 [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Steve French
2009-05-01 21:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  1:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02  1:59     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-02  3:02       ` Steve French
2009-05-02  4:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-02  9:15       ` tridge
2009-05-02  9:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  9:30           ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-03 21:57             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-03 22:25               ` tridge
2009-05-03 22:56                 ` Al Viro
2009-05-03 23:15                   ` tridge
2009-05-04  5:42                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04  6:34                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04  6:49                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 12:41                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 12:44                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 13:06                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 13:21                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 14:39                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:08                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 15:36                                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 15:59                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:07                                           ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-04 16:30                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 16:42                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:18                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-04 17:49                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:54                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 18:14                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 18:17                                                 ` Al Viro
2009-05-04 20:18                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 17:06                                               ` Olivier Galibert [this message]
2009-05-04 17:27                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 20:53                                                   ` Chris Friesen
2009-05-04 23:03                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 11:09                                                       ` David Newall
2009-05-05 20:56                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:04                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-05 22:29                                                             ` Steve French
2009-05-05  8:31                                               ` Zero-day exploit details (Was: Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option) David Newall
2009-05-04 16:11                                           ` [PATCH] Add CONFIG_VFAT_NO_CREATE_WITH_LONGNAMES option Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:38                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:55                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 16:10                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 16:22                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-04 22:12                                               ` Greg KH
2009-05-05  2:01                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05  2:11                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  2:18                                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-05  3:34                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  8:05                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 15:35                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05 21:00                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-05 21:56                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-05  3:08                                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-04 15:55                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-04 16:11                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-04 15:40                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-05-02  6:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02  2:12   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-02  6:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-01 17:41 Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 17:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-01 18:12   ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:19     ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 19:09       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-05-01 18:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 10:09 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:14   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:26     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 10:41       ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:03         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:13           ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:29             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 11:41               ` tridge
2009-05-02 11:59                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 12:15                   ` tridge
2009-05-02 12:48                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-02 13:06                       ` tridge
2009-05-02 14:01                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-27 12:05                   ` vimal singh
2009-05-27 23:57                     ` tridge
2009-06-04 10:26                       ` vimal singh
2009-06-04 21:33                         ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:20   ` tridge
2009-05-02 10:32     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-03 21:56 ` Pavel Machek

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