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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:24:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090520122402.GA19832@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090520121629.GW11363@kernel.dk>

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 02:16:30PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> It's a fine rule, I agree ;-)
> 
> I'll take another look at this when splitting the sync paths.

Btw, there has been quite a bit of work on the higher level sync code in
the VFS tree, and I have some TODO list items for the lower level sync
code.  The most important one would be splitting data and metadata
writeback.

Currently __sync_single_inode first calls do_writepages to write back
the data, then write_inode to potentially write the metadata and then
finally filemap_fdatawait to wait for the inode to be completed.

Now for one thing doing the data wait after the metadata writeout is
wrong for all those filesystems performing some kind of metadata updates
in the I/O completion handler, and e.g. XFS has to work around this
by doing a wait by itself in it's write_inode handler.

Second inodes are usually clustered together, so if a filesystem can
issue multiple dirty inodes at the same time performance will be much
better.

So an optimal sync could would first issue data I/O for all inodes it
wants to write back, then wait for the data I/O to finish and finally
write out the inodes in big clusters.

I'm not quite sure when we'll get to that, just making sure we don't
work against this direction anywhere.

And yeah, I really need to take a detailed look at the current
incarnation of your patchset :)


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-20 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-18 12:19 [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads #4 Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 01/11] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 02/11] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-05-19 10:20   ` Richard Kennedy
2009-05-19 12:23     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-19 13:45       ` Richard Kennedy
2009-05-19 17:56         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-19 22:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 11:18   ` Jan Kara
2009-05-20 11:32     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 12:11       ` Jan Kara
2009-05-20 12:16         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 12:24           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-05-20 12:48             ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 12:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-20 12:49     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 14:02       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 03/11] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 04/11] writeback: separate the flushing state/task from the bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:34   ` Jan Kara
2009-05-20 11:39     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 12:06       ` Jan Kara
2009-05-20 12:09         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 05/11] writeback: support > 1 flusher thread per bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 06/11] writeback: include default_backing_dev_info in writeback Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 07/11] writeback: allow sleepy exit of default writeback task Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 08/11] writeback: btrfs must register its backing_devices Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 09/11] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 10/11] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-18 12:19 ` [PATCH 11/11] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-05-19  6:11 ` [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads #4 Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-19  6:20   ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-19  6:43     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-20  7:51     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-20  8:09       ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20  8:54         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20  9:19           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-20  9:25             ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-20 11:19               ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-21  6:33                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-21  9:10                   ` Jan Kara
2009-05-22  1:28                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-22  8:15                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-22 20:44                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-23 19:15                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  8:02                             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-25  8:06                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  8:43                               ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-25  8:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  8:54                         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-05-22  7:53                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-22  7:53                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-25 15:57 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-05-25 17:05   ` Jens Axboe

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