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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, rdreier@cisco.com,
	bharrosh@panasas.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, chris.mason@oracle.com,
	david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.cz,
	yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/13] scsi: unify allocation of scsi command and sense buffer
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:32:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090526073229.GC11363@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090526162545U.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>

On Tue, May 26 2009, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 08:29:53 +0200
> Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 26 2009, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > On Mon, 25 May 2009 18:45:25 -0700
> > > Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  > Ideally there should be a MACRO that is defined to WORD_SIZE on cache-coherent
> > > >  > ARCHs and to SMP_CACHE_BYTES on none-cache-coherent systems and use that size
> > > >  > at the __align() attribute. (So only stupid ARCHES get hurt)
> > > > 
> > > > this seems to come up repeatedly -- I had a proposal a _long_ time ago
> > > > that never quite got merged, cf http://lwn.net/Articles/2265/ and
> > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/2269/ -- from 2002 (!?).  The idea is to go a
> > > 
> > > Yeah, I think that Benjamin did last time:
> > > 
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org/msg12632.html
> > > 
> > > IIRC, James didn't like it so I wrote the current code. I didn't see
> > > any big performance difference with scsi_debug:
> > > 
> > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=120038907123706&w=2
> > > 
> > > Jens, you see the performance difference due to this unification?
> > 
> > Yes, it's definitely a worth while optimization. The problem isn't as
> > such this specific allocation, it's the total number of allocations we
> > do for a piece of IO. This sense buffer one is just one of many, I'm
> > continually working to reduce them. If we get rid of this one and add
> > the ->alloc_cmd() stuff, we can kill one more. The bio path already lost
> > one. So in the IO stack, we went from 6 allocations to 3 for a piece of
> > IO. And then it starts to add up. Even at just 30-50k iops, that's more
> > than 1% of time in the testing I did.
> 
> I see, thanks. Hmm, possibly slab becomes slower. ;)
> 
> Then I think that we need something like the ->alloc_cmd()
> method. Let's ask James. 
> 
> I don't think that it's just about simply adding the hook; there are
> some issues that we need to think about. Though Boaz worries too much
> a bit, I think.
> 
> I'm not sure about this patch if we add ->alloc_cmd(). I doubt that
> there are any llds don't use ->alloc_cmd() worry about the overhead of
> the separated sense buffer allocation. If a lld doesn't define the own
> alloc_cmd, then I think it's fine to use the generic command
> allocator that does the separate sense buffer allocation.

I think we should do the two things seperately. If we can safely inline
the sense buffer in the command by doing the right alignment, then lets
do that. The ->alloc_cmd() approach will be easier to do with an inline
sense buffer.

But there's really no reason to tie the two things together.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-26  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-25  7:30 [PATCH 0/12] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads #5 Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 01/13] libata: get rid of ATA_MAX_QUEUE loop in ata_qc_complete_multiple() Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 01/12] ntfs: remove old debug check for dirty data in ntfs_put_super() Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 02/13] block: add static rq allocation cache Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 02/12] btrfs: properly register fs backing device Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 03/13] scsi: unify allocation of scsi command and sense buffer Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-25  7:46     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-25  7:54         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-25 10:33         ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-25 10:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-25 10:49             ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-26  4:36         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-26  5:08           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-25  8:15   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-25 11:32     ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-25  9:28   ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-26  1:45     ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-26  4:36       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-26  6:29         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-26  7:25           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-26  7:32             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2009-05-26  7:38               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-26 14:47                 ` James Bottomley
2009-05-26 15:13                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-05-26 15:31                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-26 16:05                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-27  1:36                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-27  7:54                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-27  8:26                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-27  9:11                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-26 16:12                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-26 16:28                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-05-26  7:56               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-26  5:23     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 03/12] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 04/13] scsi: get rid of lock in __scsi_put_command() Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 04/12] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 05/13] aio: mostly crap Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  9:09   ` Jan Kara
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 05/12] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 06/13] block: move elevator ops into the queue Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 06/12] writeback: separate the flushing state/task from the bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 07/13] block: avoid indirect calls to enter cfq io scheduler Jens Axboe
2009-05-26  9:02   ` Nikanth K
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 07/12] writeback: support > 1 flusher thread per bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 08/13] block: change the tag sync vs async restriction logic Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:30 ` [PATCH 08/12] writeback: include default_backing_dev_info in writeback Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 09/13] libata: switch to using block layer tagging support Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 09/12] writeback: allow sleepy exit of default writeback task Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 10/13] block: add function for waiting for a specific free tag Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 10/12] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 11/13] block: disallow merging of read-ahead bits into normal request Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 11/12] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 12/13] block: first cut at implementing a NAPI approach for block devices Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 12/12] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:31 ` [PATCH 13/13] block: unlocked completion test patch Jens Axboe
2009-05-25  7:33 ` [PATCH 0/12] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads #5 Jens Axboe

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