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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com,
	richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, damien.wyart@free.fr
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:45:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528144548.GO29199@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090527175019.GN11363@kernel.dk>

On Wed 27-05-09 19:50:19, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > +static int bdi_forker_task(void *ptr)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct backing_dev_info *me = ptr;
> > > +	DEFINE_WAIT(wait);
> > > +
> > > +	for (;;) {
> > > +		struct backing_dev_info *bdi, *tmp;
> > > +
> > > +		/*
> > > +		 * Do this periodically, like kupdated() did before.
> > > +		 */
> > > +		sync_supers();
> >   Ugh, this looks nasty. Moreover I'm afraid of forker_task() getting stuck
> > (and thus not being able to start new threads) in sync_supers() when some
> > fs is busy and other needs to create flusher thread...
> >   Why not just having a separate thread for this? I know we have lots of
> > kernel threads already but this one seems like a useful one... Or do you
> > plan getting rid of this completely sometime in the near future and sync
> > supers also from per-bdi thread (which would make a lot of sence to me)?
> 
> It's ugly, and I think this is precisely what Ted hit. He's in umount,
> has ->s_umount sem held and waiting for IO.
  I've looked into this a bit more because it was still nagging in the back
of my mind and I think there indeed is a race (although your sync writeback
waiting has now hidden it). The problem is following:
  bdi flusher threads lives independently of filesystem being mounted or
not. So it can happen that bdi_kupdate() or bdi_pdflush() runs in parallel
with umount running in another thread. That should not really happen
because
  1) umount can fail with EBUSY because generic_sync_bdi_inodes() holds
    a reference to inode
  2) we race more subtly and we get to call __writeback_single_inode() after
    the filesystem has been unmounted (put_super() has been called).

  So I believe you simply have to deal with superblock references and
umount semaphore in your patches...

> So there's definitely trouble brewing there. As a short term solution, a
> separate thread will do. Longer term, the sync_supers_bdi() type setup I
> mentioned earlier would probably be the best. But once we start dealing
> with the super blocks, we have to be more careful with referencing.
> Which we also discussed in a previous mail :-)

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-28 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27  9:41 [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v8 Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] ntfs: remove old debug check for dirty data in ntfs_put_super() Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] btrfs: properly register fs backing device Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 11:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-27 11:24     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 15:14   ` Jan Kara
2009-05-27 17:50     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 14:45       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] writeback: separate the flushing state/task from the bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] writeback: support > 1 flusher thread per bdi Jens Axboe
2009-05-28  9:27   ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28 10:40     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 12:43       ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28 12:53         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 13:58           ` Jan Kara
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] writeback: allow sleepy exit of default writeback task Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-05-27  9:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 12:41 ` [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v8 Richard Kennedy
2009-05-27 12:47   ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 14:47 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 15:05   ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 17:53   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 17:57     ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 17:58     ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-27 18:14       ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 19:15         ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-27 19:45           ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28  0:49             ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-28  9:28               ` Jan Kara
2009-05-28  9:36                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 15:23                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 19:32                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-28 19:38                     ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-28 11:46 [PATCH 0/11] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v9 Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 11:46 ` [PATCH 04/11] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-05-28 14:13   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-05-28 22:28     ` Jens Axboe

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