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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] [RFC] AFS: Implement OpenAFS pioctls(version)s
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:55:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090617075502.GB13073@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11650.1245198358@redhat.com>

On Jun 17, 2009  01:25 +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> > But if we add an ABI we end up stuck with it and this one is really
> > really rather ugly.
> 
> Somewhat less ugly than ioctl, for instance, but you're not entirely wrong.
> There is no good way of doing this.
> 
> > Can you not put pioctl() into a C library linked with the openafs utilities
> > that generates more sensible interface calls?  I mean you have to produce
> > the pioctl() syscall wrapper anyway so why not make "pioctl" a user space
> > compat library?
> 
> pioctl() is almost implementable with a combination of (l)setxattr,
> (l)getxattr, set_key, keyctl_read, and if all else fails, open + ioctl or
> open(O_NOFOLLOW) + ioctl, but not quite completely.  There are things you
> can't open, even with O_NOFOLLOW.  And doing state-retaining setxattr/
> getxattr pairs is even more nasty than pioctl (IIRC, that's something
> Christoph suggested a while back).

What about opening the mountpoint (which HAS to be available) and then
calling an ioctl() on that?  At least the mess would be contained within
AFS instead of requiring several new syscalls.

> Besides, I want a set of utilities that I can use in conjunction with both
> kAFS and OpenAFS without having to recompile.

That doesn't mean it isn't possible to have the same user-space utilities,
just that the pioctl() wrapper will need to multiplex its behaviour depending
on whether it is working with kAFS or OpenAFS.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-17  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-16 20:38 [PATCH 00/17] [RFC] AFS: Implement OpenAFS pioctls(version)s David Howells
2009-06-16 20:38 ` [PATCH 01/17] VFS: Implement the pioctl() system call David Howells
2009-06-16 20:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-17  0:19   ` David Howells
2009-06-17  9:02     ` Alan Cox
2009-06-16 20:38 ` [PATCH 02/17] VFS: Implement the AFS " David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 03/17] VFS: Implement handling for pathless pioctls David Howells
2009-06-17  7:47   ` Andreas Dilger
2009-06-17 18:26   ` David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 04/17] AFS: Add key request for pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 05/17] AFS: Handle pathless pioctls aimed at AFS David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 06/17] VFS: Define pioctl command wrappers David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 07/17] AFS: Implement the PGetFid pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 08/17] AFS: Implement the PGetFileCell pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 09/17] AFS: Implement the PGetVolStat pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 10/17] AFS: Implement the PWhereIs pioctl David Howells
2009-06-17  7:51   ` Andreas Dilger
2009-06-17 18:05   ` David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 11/17] AFS: Implement the PFlushCB pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 12/17] KEYS: Export lookup_user_key() and the key permission request flags David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 13/17] RxRPC: Record extra data in key David Howells
2009-06-16 20:39 ` [PATCH 14/17] RxRPC: Declare the security index constants symbolically David Howells
2009-06-16 20:40 ` [PATCH 15/17] AFS: Implement the PSetTokens pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 20:40 ` [PATCH 16/17] KEYS: Add a function by which the contents of a keyring can be enumerated David Howells
2009-06-16 20:40 ` [PATCH 17/17] AFS: Implement the PGetTokens pioctl David Howells
2009-06-16 22:59 ` [PATCH 00/17] [RFC] AFS: Implement OpenAFS pioctls(version)s David Howells
2009-06-16 23:11   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-17  0:25   ` David Howells
2009-06-17  7:55     ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2009-06-17 16:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-17 18:37         ` Al Viro
2009-06-17 18:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-17 18:52             ` Al Viro
2009-06-17 19:28             ` David Howells
2009-06-18 12:50               ` Olivier Galibert
2009-06-17 17:24       ` David Howells
2009-06-17 17:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-17 18:03         ` David Howells
2009-06-17 18:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-17 18:30           ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-17 19:14             ` david
2009-06-17 19:30             ` David Howells
2009-06-17 19:51           ` David Howells
2009-06-17 20:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-17  9:00     ` Alan Cox

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