From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Marco <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>,
Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@soe.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:47:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624174700.GI14121@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090623182941.GA2045@elf.ucw.cz>
Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Tue 2009-06-23 20:07:23, Marco wrote:
> > You are talked about journaling. This schema works well for a disk, but
> > what about a piece of ram? What about a crazy kernel that write in that
> > area for a bug? Do you remember for example the e1000e bug? It's not
>
> I believe you need both journaling *and* write protection. How do you
> handle power fault while writing data?
I think this is basically right.
write protection for the crazy kernels, and journalling for
powerfail/crash during updates.
Journalling can be extremely simple. It can be just one memory block
at a fixed location, double-buffering all writes.
Pramfs already has checksums, which makes that easier. You just write
to the buffer area first, with checksum, then write to the final area.
Mount looks at the buffer area, and if the checksum is fine, copies
the contents to the destination block.
That's all it takes to be resistant against power failures and crashes
during writes. Probably <100 lines of code.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-24 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-13 13:20 [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem Marco
2009-06-13 13:41 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-13 15:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 7:15 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-15 15:51 ` Bryan Henderson
2009-06-15 17:42 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 16:04 ` Marco
2009-06-16 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:15 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-26 11:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-26 16:56 ` Marco
2009-06-24 14:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 6:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 17:34 ` Marco
2009-06-21 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 6:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 17:20 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 17:31 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 17:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 21:50 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 23:26 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-23 1:42 ` David VomLehn
2009-06-23 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-23 18:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-06-25 6:32 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 18:55 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:02 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 18:08 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:15 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-15 17:44 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:58 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-17 18:32 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-18 6:35 ` Marco Stornelli
[not found] <4a4254e2.09c5660a.109d.46f8@mx.google.com>
2009-06-24 16:49 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:38 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-25 6:30 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 8:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 16:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 17:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:46 ` Pavel Machek
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