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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Alan.Brunelle@hp.com" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>,
	"hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp" <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	"randy.dunlap@oracle.com" <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Beheer InterCommIT <intercommit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND] [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:00:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090629130005.GB8416@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A489D99.5020009@vlnb.net>

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:55:21PM +0800, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> 
> 
> Wu Fengguang, on 06/29/2009 01:34 PM wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 08:29:31PM +0800, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> >> Wu Fengguang, on 06/20/2009 07:55 AM wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 03:04:36AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 06:45:38 +0800
> >>>> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Do you have a place where the raw blktrace data can be retrieved for
> >>>>>>> more in-depth analysis?
> >>>>>> I think your comment is really adequate. In another thread, Wu Fengguang pointed
> >>>>>> out the same issue.
> >>>>>> I and Wu also wait his analysis.
> >>>>> And do it with a large readahead size :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan, this was my analysis:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> : Hifumi, can you help retest with some large readahead size?
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> : Your readahead size (128K) is smaller than your max_sectors_kb (256K),
> >>>>> : so two readahead IO requests get merged into one real IO, that means
> >>>>> : half of the readahead requests are delayed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ie. two readahead requests get merged and complete together, thus the effective
> >>>>> IO size is doubled but at the same time it becomes completely synchronous IO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> : The IO completion size goes down from 512 to 256 sectors:
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> : before patch:
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   177955    50.050313976     0  C   R 8724991 + 512 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   177966    50.053380250     0  C   R 8725503 + 512 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   177977    50.056970395     0  C   R 8726015 + 512 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   177988    50.060326743     0  C   R 8726527 + 512 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   177999    50.063922341     0  C   R 8727039 + 512 [0]
> >>>>> :
> >>>>> : after patch:
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   257297    50.000760847     0  C   R 9480703 + 256 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   257306    50.003034240     0  C   R 9480959 + 256 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   257307    50.003076338     0  C   R 9481215 + 256 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   257323    50.004774693     0  C   R 9481471 + 256 [0]
> >>>>> :   8,0    3   257332    50.006865854     0  C   R 9481727 + 256 [0]
> >>>>>
> >>>> I haven't sent readahead-add-blk_run_backing_dev.patch in to Linus yet
> >>>> and it's looking like 2.6.32 material, if ever.
> >>>>
> >>>> If it turns out to be wonderful, we could always ask the -stable
> >>>> maintainers to put it in 2.6.x.y I guess.
> >>> Agreed. The expected (and interesting) test on a properly configured
> >>> HW RAID has not happened yet, hence the theory remains unsupported.
> >> Hmm, do you see anything improper in the Ronald's setup (see
> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=a0272b440906030714g67eabc5k8f847fb1e538cc62%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=scst-devel)?
> >> It is HW RAID based.
> > 
> > No. Ronald's HW RAID performance is reasonably good.  I meant Hifumi's
> > RAID performance is too bad and may be improved by increasing the
> > readahead size, hehe.
> > 
> >> As I already wrote, we can ask Ronald to perform any needed tests.
> > 
> > Thanks!  Ronald's test results are:
> > 
> > 231   MB/s   HW RAID                        
> >  69.6 MB/s   HW RAID + SCST                 
> >  89.7 MB/s   HW RAID + SCST + this patch
> > 
> > So this patch seem to help SCST, but again it would be better to
> > improve the SCST throughput first - it is now quite sub-optimal.
> 
> No, SCST performance isn't an issue here. You simply can't get more than 
> 110 MB/s from iSCSI over 1GbE, hence 231 MB/s fundamentally isn't 
> possible. There is only room for 20% improvement, which should be 

Ah yes.

> achieved with better client-side-driven pipelining (see our other 
> discussions, e.g. http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/12/370)

Yeah, that's what I want to figure out why :)

Thanks,
Fengguang

> > (Sorry for the long delay: currently I have not got an idea on
> >  how to measure such timing issues.)
> > 
> > And if Ronald could provide the HW RAID performance with this patch,
> > then we can confirm if this patch really makes a difference for RAID.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-29 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-29  5:35 [RESEND] [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-01  0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-01  1:04   ` Hisashi Hifumi
2009-06-05 15:15     ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-06-06 14:36       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-06 22:45         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 19:04           ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-20  3:55             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-20 12:29               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29  9:34                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 10:26                   ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 10:55                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 12:54                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 12:58                         ` Bart Van Assche
2009-06-29 13:01                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 13:04                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 13:13                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 13:28                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:43                               ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 14:51                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:56                                   ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 15:37                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 14:00                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-06-29 14:21                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:01                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:37                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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     [not found]                                       ` <a0272b440907030214l4016422bxbc98fd003bfe1b3d@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <4A4DE3C1.5080307@vlnb.net>
     [not found]                                           ` <a0272b440907040819l5289483cp44b37d967440ef73@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-06 11:12                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-06 14:37                                               ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-06 17:48                                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-07  6:49                                                   ` Ronald Moesbergen
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     [not found]                                                       ` <a0272b440907080149j3eeeb9bat13f942520db059a8@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-08 12:40                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-10  6:32                                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-10  8:43                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-10  9:27                                                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-13 12:12                                                                 ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-13 12:36                                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-13 12:47                                                                     ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-13 12:52                                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-14 18:52                                                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-15  7:06                                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-14 18:52                                                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-15  6:30                                                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-16  7:32                                                                       ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-16 10:36                                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-16 14:54                                                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-16 16:03                                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-17 14:15                                                                           ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-17 18:23                                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-20  7:20                                                                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-22  8:44                                                                                 ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-27 13:11                                                                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-28  9:51                                                                                     ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-28 19:07                                                                                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-07-29 12:48                                                                                         ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-31 18:32                                                                                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-08-03  9:15                                                                                             ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-08-03  9:20                                                                                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-08-03 11:44                                                                                                 ` Ronald Moesbergen
2009-07-15 20:52                                                           ` Kurt Garloff
2009-07-16 10:38                                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-30 10:22                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 10:55                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-06-29 13:00                     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-09-22 20:58 ` Andrew Morton
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2009-05-22  0:09 [RESEND][PATCH] " Hisashi Hifumi

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