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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Subject: Re: CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES regressions
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:20:13 +0100
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Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>=20
> On Sunday 2009-07-12 13:21, J=F6rn Engel wrote:
> >[ Ignoring all legal and moral aspects...]
> >
> >On Fri, 10 July 2009 22:40:14 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote=
:
> >>=20
> >> Microsoft having patents on their *obsolete* filesystem should be =
*their*
> >
> >FAT is far from obsolete.  It is practically always the filesystem o=
f
> >choice and often the only filesystem when trying to move data from o=
ne
> >system to another.  The next best alternatives are isofs and ext2.  =
And
> >I don't know a single digital camera, mp3 player or cellphone that
> >speaks either.
>=20
> The next best would probably be UDF, which is already used on DVDs
> and thus is implemented in a number of devices - though probably
> only disc-reading ones.
> There's your market hole, dear vendors.

UDF has already been mentioned on this thread, next to "looks usable
in theory, now try it and find out it isn't".

-- Jamie
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