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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to handle >16TB devices on 32 bit hosts ??
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:59:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090721235904.42e6cd35.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19041.4714.686158.130252@notabene.brown>

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:08:10 +1000 Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:

>  It has recently come to by attention that Linux on a 32 bit host does
>  not handle devices beyond 16TB particularly well.
> 
>  In particular, any access that goes through the page cache for the
>  block device is limited to a pgoff_t number of pages.
>  As pgoff_t is "unsigned long" and hence 32bit, and as page size is
>  4096, this comes to 16TB total.

I expect that the VFS could be made to work with 64-bit pgoff_t fairly
easily.  The generated code will be pretty damn sad.

radix-trees use a ulong index, so we would need a new
lib/radix_tree64.c or some other means of fixing that up.

The bigger problem is filesystems - they'll each need to be checked,
tested, fixed and enabled.  It's probably not too bad for the
mainstream filesystems which mostly bounce their operations into VFS
libarary functions anyway.



There's perhaps a middle ground - support >16TB devices, but not >16TB
partitions.  That way everything remains 32-bit and we just have to get
the offsetting right (probably already the case).

So now /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc are all <16TB.  The remaining problem
is that /dev/sda is >16TB.  I expect that we could arrange for the
kernel to error out if userspace tries to access /dev/sda beyond the
16TB point, and those very very few applications which want to touch
that part of the disk will need to be written using direct-io, (or
perhaps sgio) or run on 64-bit machines.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-22  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-18  0:08 How to handle >16TB devices on 32 bit hosts ?? Neil Brown
2009-07-18  4:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-18  6:16   ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-18  6:52     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-18  7:48       ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-18 13:49         ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-18 14:21           ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-18 14:32             ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-18 18:19             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-29 15:07           ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-19  3:44         ` Tapani Tarvainen
2009-07-18  6:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-22  6:59 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-07-22 18:32   ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-22 18:51     ` Andrew Morton

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