From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: How to handle >16TB devices on 32 bit hosts ??
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:32:44 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090722183244.GO4231@webber.adilger.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090721235904.42e6cd35.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Jul 21, 2009 23:59 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:08:10 +1000 Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> I expect that the VFS could be made to work with 64-bit pgoff_t fairly
> easily. The generated code will be pretty damn sad.
>
> radix-trees use a ulong index, so we would need a new
> lib/radix_tree64.c or some other means of fixing that up.
>
> The bigger problem is filesystems - they'll each need to be checked,
> tested, fixed and enabled. It's probably not too bad for the
> mainstream filesystems which mostly bounce their operations into VFS
> libarary functions anyway.
I don't think this is a primary concern for most filesystems even today.
Filesystems that work correctly > 16TB on 64-bit platforms should continue
to work correctly on 32-bit platforms. ext4 and XFS will be fine, and
we can slap a "refuse to mount > 16TB filesystem on 32-bit" check in
*_fill_super() for the other filesystems, ext3 included. Maintainers can
veto that if they think it will work, and for the rest I don't think
anyone will even notice.
> There's perhaps a middle ground - support >16TB devices, but not >16TB
> partitions. That way everything remains 32-bit and we just have to get
> the offsetting right (probably already the case).
>
> So now /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc are all <16TB. The remaining problem
> is that /dev/sda is >16TB. I expect that we could arrange for the
> kernel to error out if userspace tries to access /dev/sda beyond the
> 16TB point, and those very very few applications which want to touch
> that part of the disk will need to be written using direct-io, (or
> perhaps sgio) or run on 64-bit machines.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-22 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-18 0:08 How to handle >16TB devices on 32 bit hosts ?? Neil Brown
2009-07-18 4:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-18 6:16 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-18 6:52 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-18 7:48 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-18 13:49 ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-18 14:21 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-18 14:32 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-18 18:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-07-29 15:07 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-19 3:44 ` Tapani Tarvainen
2009-07-18 6:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-22 6:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-22 18:32 ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2009-07-22 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
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