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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:10:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090806101059.GD31370@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908051746.17903.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed 2009-08-05 17:46:16, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 03:05:34 Pavel Machek wrote:
> > BTW my -@suse.cz address no longer works. pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org should be ok.
> >
> > > If a FAN_ACCESS_PERM or FAN_OPEN_PERM event is received the listener
> > > must send a response before the 5 second timeout.  If no response is
> > > sent before the 5 second timeout the original operation is allowed.  If
> > > this happens too many times (10 in a row) the fanotify group is evicted
> > > from the kernel and will not get any new events.  Sending a response is
> > > done using the setsockopt() call with the socket options set to
> > > FANOTIFY_ACCESS_RESPONSE.  The buffer should contain a structure like:
> >
> > The timeout part of interface is very ugly. Will fanotify users have
> > to be realtime/mlocked?
> 
> Why do you think it is very ugly?

Do I need to explain?

> Just to make sure you haven't missed this - it is not that they have to 
> complete the whole operation before the timeout period (since you mention 
> realtime/mlock I suspect this is what you think?), but _during_ the operation 
> they have to show that they are active by sending something like keep alive 
> messages.
> 
> Or you are worried about failing to meet even that on a loaded system? There 
> has to be something like this otherwise hung userspace client would kill the 
> whole system.

Of course, I'm worried about failing to meet this on loaded
system. And the fact that I _have_ to worry about that means that
interface is ugly/broken.
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-24 20:13 fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches Eric Paris
2009-07-24 20:48 ` david-gFPdbfVZQbY
     [not found]   ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0907241340580.28013-Z4YwzcCRHZnr5h6Zg1Auow@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 21:01     ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 21:44       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 17:52         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-07-29 20:11           ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 21:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-24 21:21   ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 22:42     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-24 23:01       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 22:48 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]   ` <20090724224813.GK27755-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 23:25     ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 23:46       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 23:49     ` Eric Paris
2009-07-25  0:29       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 18:33         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-27 19:23           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-28 17:59             ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]             ` <20090727192342.GA27895-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-29 20:14               ` Eric Paris
     [not found]           ` <20090727183354.GM4231-RIaA196FMs1uuQVovAj/GogTZbYi8/ss@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-29 20:12             ` Eric Paris
2009-07-29 20:07         ` Eric Paris
2009-07-27 16:54     ` Jan Kara
2009-07-25 14:22 ` Niraj kumar
2009-07-29 20:08   ` Eric Paris
2009-07-28 11:48 ` Jon Masters
     [not found]   ` <1248781708.14145.21.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-29 20:20     ` Eric Paris
2009-08-03 16:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <20090803162303.GA31058-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 16:55     ` Eric Paris
2009-08-03 18:04       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20090803180437.GA9798-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 18:13           ` Eric Paris
2009-08-04 16:09 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]   ` <200908041709.51659.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 16:27     ` Eric Paris
2009-08-04 16:39       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]       ` <1249403268.2361.21.camel-8EcGF3LoIElviLIMxPk1+R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 17:22         ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
     [not found]           ` <19585.1249406551-+bZmOdGhbsPr6rcHtW+onFJE71vCis6O@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 18:20             ` John Stoffel
     [not found]               ` <19064.31705.491774.122207-HgN6juyGXH5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 18:50                 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-05  9:32               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2009-08-04 16:34 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]   ` <200908041734.05762.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-05 10:12     ` Douglas Leeder
2009-08-05 10:35   ` Douglas Leeder
2009-08-05  2:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-05 16:46   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]     ` <200908051746.17903.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 10:10       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-08-06 10:20         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2009-08-06 10:24           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20090806101059.GD31370-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 10:20           ` Douglas Leeder
2009-08-06 10:22             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-07  8:59               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-06 10:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 10:59               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2009-08-06 11:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 12:48                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]                     ` <200908061348.43625.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 12:58                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                         ` <20090806135800.7ccb7787-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 18:18                           ` Eric Paris
2009-08-06 13:50                   ` Kernel Event Notification Subsystem (was: fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches) Al Boldi
2009-08-06 13:50                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 18:18                   ` fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches Eric Paris
2009-08-07 16:36                     ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                       ` <E1MZSQZ-0002as-FA-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-07 17:43                         ` Eric Paris
2009-08-08 10:36                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 10:03                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                     ` <1249582695.20644.35.camel-8EcGF3LoIElviLIMxPk1+R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-08 10:34                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                 ` <200908061159.45550.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 11:24                   ` Pavel Machek

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