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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT and barriers
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:37:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090824023756.GB775@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090821224518.GG4330@mail.oracle.com>

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:45:18PM -0700, Joel Becker wrote:
> 	In the section on perhaps not waiting for buffered fallback, we
> need to clarify that O_DIRECT reads need to know to look in the
> pagecache.  That is, if we decide that extending O_DIRECT writes without
> fsync can return before the data hits the storage, the caller shouldn't
> also have to call fsync() just to call read() of data they just wrote!

The way the O_DIRECT fallback is implemented currenly is that data does
hit the disk before return, thanks to a:

	err = do_sync_mapping_range(file->f_mapping, pos, endbyte,
					SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_BEFORE|
					SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE|
					SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER);

which I expected to also sync the required metdata to disk, which
it doesn't.    Which btw are really horrible semantics given that
we export that beast to userspace as a separate system call.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-24  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1250697884-22288-1-git-send-email-jack@suse.cz>
2009-08-20 22:12 ` O_DIRECT and barriers Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 11:40   ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-21 13:54     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:24         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 17:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 19:18             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-22  0:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:19               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-22  2:31                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 14:34                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-27 17:10                   ` adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was " Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 17:24                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 15:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:06                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:33                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:41                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 20:51                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 21:08                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:16                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 21:29                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:43                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 22:39                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-30 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:46                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-29  0:59                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:44                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:50                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 21:08                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-30 16:58                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-30 17:48                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:06                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:46                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 22:08         ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-21 22:38           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-21 22:45           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-22  2:11             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:42               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-24  2:37             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-08-22  0:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:06             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-26  6:34           ` Dave Chinner
2009-08-26 15:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-26 18:47               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-27 14:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:06       ` James Bottomley
2009-08-21 15:23         ` Christoph Hellwig

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