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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was Re: O_DIRECT and barriers
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:10:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090827171044.GA5427@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090827143459.GB31453@shareable.org>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 03:34:59PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Then again they already don't get what they expect and never did,
> > so if we clear document and communicate the O_SYNC (that is Linux
> > O_SYNC) requirement we might be able to go with this.
> 
> I'm thinking, while we're looking at this, that now is a really good
> time to split up O_SYNC and O_DSYNC.
> 
> We have separate fsync and fdatasync, so it should be quite tidy now.
> 
> Then we can document using O_DSYNC on Linux, which is fine for older
> versions because it has the same value as O_SYNC at the moment.

Technically we could easily make O_SYNC really mean O_SYNC and implement
a seaprate O_DSYNC at the kernel level.

The question is how to handle this at the libc level.  Currently glibc
defines O_DSYNC to be O_SYNC.  We would need to update glibc to pass
through O_DSYNC for newer kernels and make sure it falls back to O_SYNC
for olders.  I'm not sure how feasible this is, but maybe Ulrich has
some better ideas.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-27 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1250697884-22288-1-git-send-email-jack@suse.cz>
2009-08-20 22:12 ` O_DIRECT and barriers Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 11:40   ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-21 13:54     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:24         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 17:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 19:18             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-22  0:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:19               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-22  2:31                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 14:34                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-27 17:10                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-08-27 17:24                     ` adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was " Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 15:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:06                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:33                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:41                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 20:51                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 21:08                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:16                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 21:29                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:43                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 22:39                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-30 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:46                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-29  0:59                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:44                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:50                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 21:08                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-30 16:58                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-30 17:48                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:06                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:46                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 22:08         ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-21 22:38           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-21 22:45           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-22  2:11             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:42               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-24  2:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-22  0:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:06             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-26  6:34           ` Dave Chinner
2009-08-26 15:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-26 18:47               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-27 14:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:06       ` James Bottomley
2009-08-21 15:23         ` Christoph Hellwig

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