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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was Re: O_DIRECT and barriers
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:46:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090828154647.GA15808@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A96C14C.8040105@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:24:28AM -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> The problem with O_* extensions is that the syscall doesn't fail if the  
> flag is not handled.  This is a problem in the open implementation which  
> can only be fixed with a new syscall.
>
> Why cannot just go on and say we interpret O_SYNC like O_SYNC and  
> O_SYNC|O_DSYNC like O_DSYNC.  The POSIX spec explicitly requires that  
> the latter handled like O_SYNC.
>
> We could handle it by allocating two bits, only one is handled in the  
> kernel.  If the O_DSYNC definition for userlevel would be different from  
> the kernel definition then the kernel could interpret O_SYNC|O_DSYNC  
> like O_DSYNC.  The libc would then have to translate the userlevel  
> O_DSYNC into the kernel O_DSYNC.  If the libc is too old for the kernel  
> and the application, the userlevel flag would be passed to the kernel  
> and nothing bad happens.

What about hte following variant:

 - given that our current O_SYNC really is and always has been actuall
   Posix O_DSYNC keep the numerical value and rename it to O_DSYNC in
   the headers.
 - Add a new O_SYNC definition:

	#define O_SYNC		(O_DSYNC|O_REALLY_SYNC)

   and do full O_SYNC handling in new kernels if O_REALLY_SYNC is
   present.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-28 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1250697884-22288-1-git-send-email-jack@suse.cz>
2009-08-20 22:12 ` O_DIRECT and barriers Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 11:40   ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-21 13:54     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:24         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 17:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 19:18             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-22  0:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:19               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-22  2:31                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 14:34                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-27 17:10                   ` adding proper O_SYNC/O_DSYNC, was " Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-27 17:24                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 15:46                       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2009-08-28 16:06                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 16:33                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 16:41                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 20:51                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-28 21:08                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:16                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 21:29                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-28 21:43                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-08-28 22:39                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-30 16:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:46                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-29  0:59                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:44                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 16:50                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 21:08                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-08-30 16:58                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-30 17:48                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:06                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-28 23:46                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 22:08         ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-21 22:38           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-21 22:45           ` Joel Becker
2009-08-22  2:11             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-24  2:42               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-24  2:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-22  0:56           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-22  2:06             ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-26  6:34           ` Dave Chinner
2009-08-26 15:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-26 18:47               ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-27 14:50                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-21 14:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21 15:06       ` James Bottomley
2009-08-21 15:23         ` Christoph Hellwig

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