From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Parisc List <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Filesystem Mailing List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: xfs failure on parisc (and presumably other VI cache systems) caused by I/O to vmalloc/vmap areas
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:16:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090908201619.GG6538@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1252437112.13003.39.camel@mulgrave.site>
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 07:11:52PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 20:00 +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:27:49PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > This bug was observed on parisc, but I would expect it to affect all
> > > architectures with virtually indexed caches.
> >
> > I don't think your proposed solution will work for ARM with speculative
> > prefetching (iow, the latest ARM CPUs.) If there is a mapping present,
> > it can be speculatively prefetched from at any time - the CPU designers
> > have placed no bounds on the amount of speculative prefetching which
> > may be present in a design.
>
> The architecturally prescribed fix for this on parisc is to purge the
> TLB entry as well. Without a TLB entry, the CPU is forbidden from doing
> speculative reads. This obviously works only as long as the kernel
> never touches the page during DMA, of course ...
>
> Isn't this also true for arm?
There appears to be nothing architected along those lines for ARM.
>From the architectural point of view, any "normal memory" mapping is
a candidate for speculative accesses provided access is permitted via
the page permissions.
In other words, if the CPU is permitted to access a memory page, it
is a candidate for speculative accesses.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-08 20:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-08 18:27 xfs failure on parisc (and presumably other VI cache systems) caused by I/O to vmalloc/vmap areas James Bottomley
2009-09-08 19:00 ` Russell King
2009-09-08 19:11 ` James Bottomley
2009-09-08 20:16 ` Russell King [this message]
2009-09-08 20:39 ` James Bottomley
2009-09-08 21:39 ` Russell King
2009-09-09 3:14 ` James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: add coherence API for DMA " James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:23 ` James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:35 ` Paul Mundt
2009-09-09 14:34 ` James Bottomley
2009-09-10 0:24 ` Paul Mundt
2009-09-10 0:30 ` James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:18 ` [PATCH 2/5] parisc: add mm " James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] arm: " James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 4/5] block: permit I/O to vmalloc/vmap kernel pages James Bottomley
2009-09-09 3:21 ` [PATCH 5/5] xfs: fix xfs to work with Virtually Indexed architectures James Bottomley
2009-10-13 1:40 ` xfs failure on parisc (and presumably other VI cache systems) caused by I/O to vmalloc/vmap areas Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-13 4:13 ` James Bottomley
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